Looks like all the people saying "just start fusing those M1 CPU's into bigger ones" were right, that's basically what they did here (fused two M1 Max'es together). And since the presenter mentioned the Mac Pro would come on another day, I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that.
Apple M1 Ultra
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Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#32Haha, bloody hell, what a monster of a chip. I find my M1 Max already remarkably fast. The change is so huge. It's like in the old days when you'd get a new computer and it felt like it could do things before you could think of doing them. But surely the GPU things can't be real? The GPU in the M1 Ultra beats the top-of-the-line Nvidia? That's nuts.
> But surely the GPU things can't be real? The GPU in the M1 Ultra beats the top-of-the-line Nvidia? Dubious. https://www.pcgamer.com/apple-m1-max-nvidia-rtx-3080-perform...
From the article:
> Apple even says its new GPU is a match for Nvidia's RTX 3080 mobile chip, though you'll have to take Apple's word for it on that one. We've also reached out to Nvidia to see what it might have to say on the matter.
> RTX 3080 mobile chip
> mobile chip
There's a 50%[1] (!) difference with mobile and non-mobile versions of the chip. So that's hardly a deal breaker.
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#33I'm cross posting a question I had from the Mac Studio thread (currently unanswered). ---- Mac Pro scale up? How is this going to scale up to a Mac Pro, especially related to RAM? The Ultra caps at 128 GB of RAM (which isn't much for video editing, especially given that the GPU uses the system RAM). Today's Mac Pro goes up to 1.5TB (and has dedicated video RAM above this). If the Mac Pro is say, 4 Ultra's stacked tog…
Does the mac studio potentially replace the mac pro concept? It seems targeted at exactly the audience that mac pros targeted (ridiculous amounts of video simul-editing)
No this looks like a modular replacement of the iMac Pro. If it was to replace the Mac Pro they wouldn't have said at the end of the event "the Mac Pro will have to wait until next time".
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#34I'm cross posting a question I had from the Mac Studio thread (currently unanswered). ---- Mac Pro scale up? How is this going to scale up to a Mac Pro, especially related to RAM? The Ultra caps at 128 GB of RAM (which isn't much for video editing, especially given that the GPU uses the system RAM). Today's Mac Pro goes up to 1.5TB (and has dedicated video RAM above this). If the Mac Pro is say, 4 Ultra's stacked tog…
Does the mac studio potentially replace the mac pro concept? It seems targeted at exactly the audience that mac pros targeted (ridiculous amounts of video simul-editing)
To me, this seems to have killed the iMac Pro not the Mac Pro.
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#35Looks like all the people saying "just start fusing those M1 CPU's into bigger ones" were right, that's basically what they did here (fused two M1 Max'es together). And since the presenter mentioned the Mac Pro would come on another day, I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that.
>I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that.
They'll be running out of names for that thing. M1 Ultra II would be lame, so M1 Extreme? M1 Steve?
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#36I'm cross posting a question I had from the Mac Studio thread (currently unanswered). ---- Mac Pro scale up? How is this going to scale up to a Mac Pro, especially related to RAM? The Ultra caps at 128 GB of RAM (which isn't much for video editing, especially given that the GPU uses the system RAM). Today's Mac Pro goes up to 1.5TB (and has dedicated video RAM above this). If the Mac Pro is say, 4 Ultra's stacked tog…
A few points to make...
- the shared CPU+GPU RAM doesn't necessarily mean the GPU has to eat up system RAM when in use, because it can share addressing. So whereas the current Mac pro would require two copies of data (CPU+GPU) the new Mac studio can have one. Theoretically.
- they do have very significant video decoder blocks. That means that you may use less RAM than without since you can keep frames compressed in flight
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#37I'm cross posting a question I had from the Mac Studio thread (currently unanswered). ---- Mac Pro scale up? How is this going to scale up to a Mac Pro, especially related to RAM? The Ultra caps at 128 GB of RAM (which isn't much for video editing, especially given that the GPU uses the system RAM). Today's Mac Pro goes up to 1.5TB (and has dedicated video RAM above this). If the Mac Pro is say, 4 Ultra's stacked tog…
This went by so fast I'm not sure I heard it right, but I believe the announcer for the Ultra said it the last in the M1 lineup.
They just can't ship a Mac Pro without expansion in the normal sense, my guess is that the M2 will combine the unified memory architecture with expansion busses.
Which sounds gnarly, and I don't blame them for punting on that for the first generation of M class processors.
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#38Are the neural engines actually used for anything, to anyone's knowledge? Edit: Apparently in iPhones, they are used for FaceID.
Probably object tracking in videos will be the best use of them.
Or, there will be some new form of video generation (like the ones generating video from Deep Dream etc, but something aimed at studio production) using ML that wasn't practically usable before.
It opens many doors, but it will take at least many months, if not years, to see some new "kind" of software to emerge that efficiently makes use of them.
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#39Looks like all the people saying "just start fusing those M1 CPU's into bigger ones" were right, that's basically what they did here (fused two M1 Max'es together). And since the presenter mentioned the Mac Pro would come on another day, I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that.
>I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that. They'll be running out of names for that thing. M1 Ultra II would be lame, so M1 Extreme? M1 Steve?
M1 Max Pro... :P
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#40I'm cross posting a question I had from the Mac Studio thread (currently unanswered). ---- Mac Pro scale up? How is this going to scale up to a Mac Pro, especially related to RAM? The Ultra caps at 128 GB of RAM (which isn't much for video editing, especially given that the GPU uses the system RAM). Today's Mac Pro goes up to 1.5TB (and has dedicated video RAM above this). If the Mac Pro is say, 4 Ultra's stacked tog…
Does the mac studio potentially replace the mac pro concept? It seems targeted at exactly the audience that mac pros targeted (ridiculous amounts of video simul-editing)
The presentor very explicitly said they are not done and they will replace the Mac Pro.
But yes, I see a lot of folks replacing current Mac Pros with Studios.