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Re: Apple M1 Ultra

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Post by aaomidi »

superkuh wrote: post #5

It sounds like the chip is fast but I wonder, if like other M1 products, the computers built with it will be fairly restricted, like a console, in terms of the hardware they're able to use (not being able to boot off external HDDs, problems with thunderbolt 3 compatibility in peripherals, having to use abstraction layers to run most of the software world indirectly or have specific porting projects dedicated to M1, e…

> having to use abstraction layers to run most of the software world indirectly

Nearly everything I use daily is built for M1 now.

https://isapplesiliconready.com/

And honestly, if it's not, its a good indication that it's time to move away from that product as they don't care about a huge segment of their users.

Re: Apple M1 Ultra

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Post by Omniusaspirer »

renewiltord wrote: post #3

Haha, bloody hell, what a monster of a chip. I find my M1 Max already remarkably fast. The change is so huge. It's like in the old days when you'd get a new computer and it felt like it could do things before you could think of doing them. But surely the GPU things can't be real? The GPU in the M1 Ultra beats the top-of-the-line Nvidia? That's nuts.

Based on Anandtech benchmarks the M1 Max GPU is basically on par with a mobile 3080, which a quick search tells me is about 60% as fast as a desktop 3080. Not unreasonable to believe 2 of them combined will outperform a 3090- with nearly 128 GB of VRAM to boot.

Even more incredible Anandtech reports the M1 max GPU block maxing at 43W in their testing. So a 90W GPU in the M1 Ultra is trading blows with a 350+ watt 3090.

1) https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performanc...

Re: Apple M1 Ultra

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Post by contingencies »

Desktop marketing seems to be getting desperate. Few people use the apps they show in the Mac Studio benchmarks. Fewer still care that their chips use less power... if they did, they would stay on their phones.

Re: Apple M1 Ultra

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Post by MBCook »

xiphias2 wrote: post #16

Didn't AMD do something similar with putting 2 CPU chips together with cache in-between? What's the difference here in packaging technology? (maybe there is no shared cache here)

This doesn’t seem to be two cores connected in standard SMP configuration, or with a shared cache between them. Apple claims there were like 10,000 connection points.

It sounds like this operates as if it was one giant physical chip, not two separate processors that can talk very fast.

I can’t wait to see benchmarks.

Re: Apple M1 Ultra

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Post by Thaxll »

renewiltord wrote: post #3

Haha, bloody hell, what a monster of a chip. I find my M1 Max already remarkably fast. The change is so huge. It's like in the old days when you'd get a new computer and it felt like it could do things before you could think of doing them. But surely the GPU things can't be real? The GPU in the M1 Ultra beats the top-of-the-line Nvidia? That's nuts.

> But surely the GPU things can't be real? The GPU in the M1 Ultra beats the top-of-the-line Nvidia? That's nuts.

People that game on Mac know it's a lie, GPU for gaming on mac is vastly slower than recent graphic cards.

Re: Apple M1 Ultra

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Post by jlouis »

renewiltord wrote: post #3

Haha, bloody hell, what a monster of a chip. I find my M1 Max already remarkably fast. The change is so huge. It's like in the old days when you'd get a new computer and it felt like it could do things before you could think of doing them. But surely the GPU things can't be real? The GPU in the M1 Ultra beats the top-of-the-line Nvidia? That's nuts.

Insane claims requires insane evidence. We don't have that there.

For some workloads i would not be surprised at all. But for all workloads, ...

Re: Apple M1 Ultra

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Post by can16358p »

alberth wrote: post #20

I'm cross posting a question I had from the Mac Studio thread (currently unanswered). ---- Mac Pro scale up? How is this going to scale up to a Mac Pro, especially related to RAM? The Ultra caps at 128 GB of RAM (which isn't much for video editing, especially given that the GPU uses the system RAM). Today's Mac Pro goes up to 1.5TB (and has dedicated video RAM above this). If the Mac Pro is say, 4 Ultra's stacked tog…

I think they will unveil M2 which can probably at least double the 64GB max to 128GB max RAM of M1-series.

Then, on the highest configuration, I think they actually can put 6 M2-top-specced or more into the Mac Pro.

Re: Apple M1 Ultra

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Post by bpicolo »

alberth wrote: post #20

I'm cross posting a question I had from the Mac Studio thread (currently unanswered). ---- Mac Pro scale up? How is this going to scale up to a Mac Pro, especially related to RAM? The Ultra caps at 128 GB of RAM (which isn't much for video editing, especially given that the GPU uses the system RAM). Today's Mac Pro goes up to 1.5TB (and has dedicated video RAM above this). If the Mac Pro is say, 4 Ultra's stacked tog…

Does the mac studio potentially replace the mac pro concept? It seems targeted at exactly the audience that mac pros targeted (ridiculous amounts of video simul-editing)
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