The new silent majority: People who don't tweet • Hacker News Board

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Post by themaninthedark » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 7:14 PM UTC

tayo42 wrote: post #34

typeofhuman wrote: post #6

I don't engage on Twitter out of fear. I sometimes see posts that I like and want to retweet but I don't because it means I'm endorsing everything the author has ever said or ever will say. It's not worth the risk. People in my demographic face significant exposure to "cancelling" or ambushing for wrongthink. So it's best for me to avoid it entirely.

It's really easy to not be "canceled", just be a good person. What genuinely OK opinion are people being canceled for?

Here is a good example:

"You just used 'OK' in your comment, only white supremacists use 'OK'."

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Post by recursive » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 7:16 PM UTC

tayo42 wrote: post #77

blockmarker wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really easy to not be burned at the stake, just don't be a witch.

Being canceled isn't even a real thing. It's just a phrase people use because they have to have consequences when they show their true selves. Some group of people don't agree with you? Show me an example of being canceled then

If you really think it's not a thing, here's an early cancellation. Pretty much everyone involved lost their jobs, and it was all over social media for a cycle.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/how-dongle-jokes...

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Post by kaetemi » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 7:16 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #55

jameskilton wrote: post #12

"Never pass up a chance to keep your mouth shut" Words my Dad taught me as I was growing up, but only really sank in the last 5 or so years ago.

I once worked for a company where several groups were VERY vocal about their complaints about each other. It seemed like bitching about the other team(s) was part of the job. Lots of walls built here and there between teams. I kept quiet. I decided bitching was too tiresome / nobody was getting anything done, nobody was getting better by having complainants flung at them. After I established relationships with variou…

Familiar story. Worse when the group that's wrong on nearly everything gets a cozy position from people in charge, where they can get by with minimum effort.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 7:16 PM UTC

tayo42 wrote: post #34

typeofhuman wrote: post #6

I don't engage on Twitter out of fear. I sometimes see posts that I like and want to retweet but I don't because it means I'm endorsing everything the author has ever said or ever will say. It's not worth the risk. People in my demographic face significant exposure to "cancelling" or ambushing for wrongthink. So it's best for me to avoid it entirely.

It's really easy to not be "canceled", just be a good person. What genuinely OK opinion are people being canceled for?

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Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Post by distrill » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 7:16 PM UTC

johnNumen wrote: post #66

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Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Post by andrewclunn » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 7:16 PM UTC

"and they don't try to pick fights at school board meetings." And that's where I stopped reading. Because, you know, voicing disagreement at a public forum with people tasked with educating your kids is the same as going on a Twitter rant.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Post by tayo42 » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 7:16 PM UTC

voakbasda wrote: post #86

tayo42 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? This is easy, don't hurt other people.

That’s not possible. People take offense at everything. Or they will tomorrow. That’s the real problem: the standards of “good” and “decent” shift from time to time. What is fine today may get you canceled tomorrow. Thus, it is not safe to put your opinions out there in any form that could come back to bite you. If you want to take that risk, fine. But do not pretend that it is safe.

It really isn't changing that much though. Maybe if you think someone might be offended by what you say in 10 years, maybe don't say it now. It's probably offensive now

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Post by ineptech » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 7:16 PM UTC

Twitter looks like a sunk-cost fallacy run amok. The pitch was that it would become ubiquitous, and it clearly isn't and doesn't seem like it ever will be, but the people who are most heavily invested in it act as if it was, presumably out of self-interest.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Post by tayo42 » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 7:17 PM UTC

thinkingemote wrote: post #95

tayo42 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? This is easy, don't hurt other people.

Now define "hurt". It's not easy as "hurt" is not objective, is relative to others and no longer connected to intention.

This isn't some clover got you, if someone tell you your offended them then that's it, you offended them. You don't get to redefine it

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 7:17 PM UTC

I think Twitter has disproportionate influence because all the journalists are on Twitter, and end up amplifying it.

How many times have a seen TV hosts just basically read Twitter.

Twitter is an easy way for journalists/TV personalities to generate stories.