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My lizard brain is no match for infinite scroll

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Post by krat0sprakhar »

tayo42 wrote: post #207
LiquidPolymer wrote: post #111

I’m curious what the generational divide is for this. I’m 57, love tech and enjoy the positive side of the internet in limited doses. But I find most social media boring. There is incredible and AMAZING art, accidental moments, serious discussion and fascinating analysis of the world to be found online. But without grounding myself in genuine experience in the stinky, cruel real world of human interaction, nature, an…

i don't scroll but i do find my self refreshing to see if anything is new a lot. like being bored and checking the fridge over and over. i seem to have lots of 30min breaks here or there that i fill up with bs time wasters

I found myself doing that a lot (especially with being at home now), but recently, I've started using that "dead" time to play the guitar like practice a scale or something straightforward. That allows me to feel less guilty for getting bored while still getting a bit better at a skill that I value.

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Post by throwawayboise »

mdonahoe wrote: post #178
throwawayboise wrote: post #104

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Like Twitter, the concept of TikTok doesn't make any sense to me so I've never tried it. But YouTube suggestions I do not find very compelling. I'll sometimes scroll for a few minutes but it's mostly stuff I've either already watched or exactly like stuff I've already watched. It doesn't do very well at surfacing stuff that might catch a related interest but isn't really the same thing.

Have you tried YouTube shorts? The auto-playing-as-you-swipe format is very addictive in a way that the regular YouTube feed is not.

No.

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Post by heyitsanewacco »

inopinatus wrote: post #301
randomsearch wrote: post #270

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That’s odd, because your own reply explains why this is different (the weaponisation / manipulation). The technology is qualitatively different or “generational.” Growing up with it has given this generation a different experience and different behaviours.

I never said it was different. Quite the opposite. I said that the behaviour is the same. The technology it attaches to is different, that’s all. Making a dispositional inference at all is the error. Or more bluntly, every generation complains about the next one, but most old farts don’t realise they’ve sleepwalked into the cliché.

I can recall pretty much every episode of the first 10 seasons of the Simpsons in ridiculous detail because I watched hours of TV after school in the 90s, and my parents lamented that I didn't go outside enough. This isn't new.

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Post by johndevor »

lrvick wrote: post #164
sodality2 wrote: post #24

I'm still young so maybe my mind hasn't matured enough to where I can combat this well. So I went heavy-handed - I have a button on my desk that when I press it, my server's DNS server (through which all my devices and router resolve) begins rejecting requests to reddit, instagram, twitter, hackernews, news.google.com, etc. For the next two hours, there is nothing I can do outside of SSH'ing through my mobile device…

I just ditched my smartphone entirely. Humanity survived until the 00s without them. You can too.

https://www.thelightphone.com/

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Post by efreak »

markussss wrote: post #386
Ntrails wrote: post #371

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> I thought I was the only one with this habit hah! Nope. I think I would gladly institute capital punishment for people who institute pop-ups on highlighted text. "Oooh, you highlighted a passage of text, would you like to tweet it (with a link to source and user tracked)?" No. I was reading that. ** off. Outlook.com is particularly as depending on my random clicks I can end up with "new email + quote" or "new Note…

GitLab's diff or Code Review has an extremely annoying feature for people who fidget with text, especially when dragging text. In addition to highlighting and "painting" the text, I often click and drag the highlighted text around. If some text is dragged onto the code view in Firefox, the dropped text seems to be treated like URLs, and opened either in new tabs or in the current tab. https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gi…

If gitlab allows uploads by dropping files outside of the textarea, it might be a bug related to that (either in the browser or more likely in gitlab). This is standard for dragging urls or files into the browser from outside when the website isn't a drop target, afaik. You might be able to write a user script to disable it.

Alternatively, if you feel like rebuilding Firefox yourself, it looks like nsBaseDragService.cpp _might_ help you with preventing stuff from being dropped anywhere; I haven't read the whole file, but going by the name, overriding aCanDrop and mCanDrop to false might help. See lines 62, 84, 92. This _might_ allow you to continue dragging stuff around but disable dropping stuff.

[1]: https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/nsBaseDr...

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Post by Arrath »

Alex3917 wrote: post #399
janmarsal wrote: post #306

Thankfully my monkey brain is stronger than my lizard brain when it comes to things like infinite scroll, modals and other horrible UI features that nobody in their right mind should add to any website. Even just a couple of minutes of twitter usage makes me rage quit the whole website. Why do you pause my video when I scroll down it's just a politician speaking I don't need to see it only listen WHY YOU DO THIS? I'm…

> On Reddit this means that I manage to close the thread by accident all the time because someone thought it would be a good idea to open the threads in a modal that closes when you click outside of it. The whole point of modals is to enable the user to close them by clicking outside of them. So this way if you want to show new users something like an onboarding tutorial, they can just click outside of the modal if t…

That may be the point, but it sure is annoying behavior that I don't particularly want in this use case!

I'll often click and close out of a thread just by trying to get focus back on the window so I can scroll down, and its annoying as all hell.

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Post by efreak »

SilasX wrote: post #388
srik wrote: post #344

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I share your affinity to the older reddit ui but why bother using an addon for redirecting when you can opt out of the redesign in settings instead.

Because a) they randomly toggle your setting back, and don’t respect it at all on mobile, and b) features are slowly breaking on the old UI as well: gallery links not working, the “report” button taking seconds to load and then having a modal that breaks interoperability and hijacks Esc.

> hijacks Esc

I hate squarespace with a passion for this. I'll be loading a forum or other page and hit esc to stop the page from loading. It works--but a few seconds later, it prompts me to log into the CMS/management.

As far as modals go, I actively want modals to respond to esc. I don't want to have to reach for my mouse to close a pop-up. Modal popups are the only thing that should hijack esc.

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Post by arepublicadoceu »

m8s wrote: post #227

I just want to give a quick shout out to the Apollo Reddit reader on iOS for two specific features: 1. You can disable infinite scroll. When I’ve been scrolling Reddit for 20 or so posts, it’s a sobering reminder that I’ve gained nothing of value on Page 1, and Page 2 likely won’t be any better. 2. You can disable r/all. If it’s there, odds are I will look at it. Without it, I don’t feel tempted to wander outside of…

I have exactly the opposite issue. The fact that Apollo fixes all my reddit annoyances means that I use it way more than I should. If I was forced to use the official reddit app with it's ads and nonsense or the atrocious web page, my reddit usage would drop exponentially.

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Post by gideon_b »

A while back there was an article here from someone who moderated their social media use by throttling the connection speed for facebook - with the site getting slower the more time you spent browsing.

At the time I read that article, my achilles heel was Instagram. The Instagram mobile site has most of the content I care about but a pretty poor experience on a mobile browser. I can still get messages and see the things I care about. I can't use it for more than a few minutes without getting frustrated. Stories barely work, you can only watch 4 or 5 before the video player hangs up. Honestly it's perfect, and the discussion here on HN helped me realize that a degraded experience was a better experience for social media. Using the mobile site helped me turn a bad habit into a healthy one.

I use the same strategy for Twitter but their mobile browser experience is better. Twitter can still be habit-forming without the app.

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Post by Lascaille »

Freak_NL wrote: post #413
onion2k wrote: post #403

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A glass of red wine is 250ml.

That would get you exactly three glasses from a bottle. That's… not a normal pour of wine in any country. A standard size bottle of wine (750ml) serves five or six glasses, but the hospitality industry usually goes for five out of a bottle. 150ml (or 5oz) is what you can reasonably expect in restaurants and bars for the average glass of wine. Do you honestly pour a third of a bottle at a time for wine?

250ml is a standard UK measure of wine.

175ml and 125ml are also UK standards but in a lot of places if you order wine by the glass you'll get 250ml.

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