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Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by mnw21cam »

hhmc wrote: post #135
jsmolka wrote: post #74

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I did the same because I wanted to consume podcasts with the screen locked and not have adds. But the download speed for me is pretty good. Downloading a 2.5h podcast in 480p (which has the same audio quality as 1080p IIRC) takes less than half a minute.

Is there really not a audio only version of the podcasts your interested in. i.e. the classic rss feed of audio files. It's such a shame what has happened to podcasts

You can download only the audio using youtube-dl.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by madeofpalk »

hirako2000 wrote: post #181
madeofpalk wrote: post #145

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What happens when someone uploads universally abhorrent, illegal, immoral, and harmful videos?

that's a matter of opinion. i find YouTube filled with plenty of videos I would deem immoral, harmful, abhorrent. they remain there. and that's fine, nobody forces me to watch them.

Child pornography is a "matter of opinion"? That's what I was getting at - probably the one thing we make no carve outs for as a society.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by xionon »

dukeofdoom wrote: post #122
stuu99 wrote: post #42

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>I 100% support youtube-dl and I want YouTube to stop interfering with it Well if you've bought any client-server app over the last 23 years its a bit too late for computing freedom. They are locking down IO with trusted computing, there's been a 23+ year initiative to move to encrypted computing to take input/output control away from the user, this required the co-operation of hardware manufacturers. Windows 10 and…

We might end up in a situation in the near future where China provides the more open solutions. Russia will now use Chinese UnionPay to get around MasterCard and Visa banning Russian clients. I have gen2 ipod touch that the hardware is perfectly fine, but no way to update the software that I know.

You think that China, famous for it's nationwide firewall, will provide open solutions?

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by alias_neo »

mftb wrote: post #78
CactusOnFire wrote: post #48

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Use linux? My next PC I am making the switch.

I did. If you're a developer, for a personal machine it's both easy and straightforward (I have work provided machines that use other OS's but that's outside the scope of this post). Do a little research on HW that works well with Linux (I went all AMD). Purchase, wipe, install distro of your choice (I went with Manjaro, because of Arch, doesn't really matter). It's been about 2 years and I haven't had a single serio…

Better yet. Buy from a company that won't charge you for the Windows licence you don't want.

I'm a developer. I am also exclusively a nix/BSD user for about the past decade; my machines, servers, my wife's laptop, my work laptop etc, all nix/bsd.

When I bought my personal XPS 13 I contacted DELL customer support to buy a "Developer" version, it took 3 weeks to ship because they had to build it, rather than provide an off-the-shelf box with Windows pre-installed, but I saved something like £43.

It's not about the money, but I would rather have it in my pocket than give it to Microsoft for some software I _really_ don't want (or need).

Side note, I'm planning on buying a Framework next.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by dukeofdoom »

xionon wrote: post #204
dukeofdoom wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We might end up in a situation in the near future where China provides the more open solutions. Russia will now use Chinese UnionPay to get around MasterCard and Visa banning Russian clients. I have gen2 ipod touch that the hardware is perfectly fine, but no way to update the software that I know.

You think that China, famous for it's nationwide firewall, will provide open solutions?

What's possible is that China will have one policy for its own citizens, but another for the rest of the World. They have proven to be very flexible on ideology if it makes them rich.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by leothecool »

paulcole wrote: post #174
feanaro wrote: post #126

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We're not being a little too cute. If you are supposed to be able to access YouTube from Firefox or Chrome, then you are also supposed to be able to access it via youtube-dl, given all of those are HTTP clients. Saying otherwise would be setting a dangerous precedent of trying to legislate which HTTP clients are allowed and which are disallowed.

I can go to an all you can eat restaurant with my empty stomach. I can’t go to an all you can eat restaurant with an empty garbage bag to fill up with food for later.

As a garbage bag manufacturer, can you advertise that your garbage bags are for that purpose?

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

dukeofdoom wrote: post #206
xionon wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think that China, famous for it's nationwide firewall, will provide open solutions?

What's possible is that China will have one policy for its own citizens, but another for the rest of the World. They have proven to be very flexible on ideology if it makes them rich.

Just ask Jack Ma

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by cuteboy19 »

TrapLord_Rhodo wrote: post #200
stuu99 wrote: post #42

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>I 100% support youtube-dl and I want YouTube to stop interfering with it Well if you've bought any client-server app over the last 23 years its a bit too late for computing freedom. They are locking down IO with trusted computing, there's been a 23+ year initiative to move to encrypted computing to take input/output control away from the user, this required the co-operation of hardware manufacturers. Windows 10 and…

Creator revolt is the only way it seems to force the issue. If everyone started using a open-source medium of storing data and simply extended that to the other platforms, it would take away their control of the medium with which it is presented. Filecoin might be a good usecase here.

Except for the fact that filecoin advertises the ability to use DRM to protect NFTs ... or something. I have no idea what this post says except for a lot of buzzwords and something related to DRM

https://filecoin.io/blog/posts/filecoin-news-37/

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by Iolaum »

arepublicadoceu wrote: post #163
Iolaum wrote: post #155

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There are already non mainstream OEMs you can buy hardware from that won't have this problem. System76, entroware, Purism (laptops+smartphones), Frame.Work (not only Linux laptops) and other Linux manufacturers are there to serve you. On the mobile space there is Purism, Pine64 and FairPhone. In our dystopian future, if you want ownership of a computing device you 'll need buy a nieche one.

And good luck buying any of these devices if you’re outside of the blessed distribution centers. Try buying any of those in Brazil or non US/UK/EU countries and you’re going to have tons of fun with import taxes and shipping. Suddenly, a cheap device costs more than a flagship iPhone or android with none of their benefits except the intangible freedom.

Unfortunately that is so. In that case I 'd recommend (used or older) laptops compatible with linux and (older) phones known to be compatible with LineageOS (or postmarketOS if you are adventurous). This "solution" may not work everywhere in the world but hopefully it will cover a not insignificant part of non EU/US/UK.

One of the best purchases I ever made was a le eco le pro 3 phone once the company went bankrupt for half the retail price 5 years ago. Bought it because it already had LineageOS support. Today it runs Lineage OS 18.1 (android 11) like a champ, it can be make to run bank apps (passing safetynet) if I want to. Still lineage OS is not a silver bullet you either need to get lucky and pick a phone with a big enough following that volunteer devs will support or scout XDA threads in order to identify those phones before purchasing.

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