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Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As someone that has spent a sizable amount of my career in ad products, the outrage here is kind of (sadly) funny Imagine gloating and being proud of such a career.

I didn’t get the sense that he/she was gloating. Just citing their expertise.

Whenever someone claims expertise in a way that is so vague and unverifiable that basically anyone could have made the claim, really, it is not a citation and not a sign of expertise. But it is very sketchy.

In a completely different matter, I worked on high level space programs in the late 1970s and if you had any idea about the information that the government is hiding on extraterrestrial life TO THIS DAY, your hair would stand.

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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I'm no ads expert but my guess would be they run ads on TikTok and have the pixel on UberEats to figure out the conversion rate on those ads.

If anyone cared about privacy, a solution would be to only include the pixel when a user was redirected from tiktok to Ubereats. No need to include the other 6 pixels, or include them for users that landed via the homepage.

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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As someone that has spent a sizable amount of my career in ad products, the outrage here is kind of (sadly) funny. A conversion pixel? Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. Pretty sure they were breaking all kinds of PII laws.

> Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. I really don’t understand the goal with vague statements like this that can’t even provide even the slightest hint of specifics. What specific data? Even a single example would make this anecdote useful. Instead it feels more like a brag. “I know something but I’m not telling” but in this case the comment…

Why do you give them the benefit of the doubt? There are countless examples of this kind of behavior in top companies.

The difference when it comes to other industries (e.g. food) is that the regulation has had time to develop, and most legislators understand the concepts. So it's harder to cheat.

Forgetting someones opt-out preferences by mistake doesn't ring as severe as using light carcinogens in your food mix.

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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Just in general look at those cookie consent dialogs at any site living on advertising or using it and really see the insanity of number of partners... That should show that we might actually need to burn it all down...

Would you be willing to pay for the content you get for free from sites like YouTube, Reddit, and HackerNews?

You assume that product must exist. It does not have to.

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

#208
I used to be extremely privacy focused. I was the stereotypical noscript, don't load email remote content, all services off on phone, etc kind of guy. But recently at a certain point, I just stopped caring. I use ad blockers, so what harm is there to Google knowing my information?

I don't really have any information worth hiding. Even the worst case catostrophic leak scenarios are really not a big deal for me. So I just decided to stop making my life harder; I got a smartphone, I turned on the convenience services that track me, I started looking at pictures in my emails. I still think privacy is important, but I stopped caring about mine.

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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post #13

As someone that has spent a sizable amount of my career in ad products, the outrage here is kind of (sadly) funny. A conversion pixel? Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. Pretty sure they were breaking all kinds of PII laws.

> if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand.

I'm pretty sure everyone of technical aptitude knew Facebook's data faucet. But maybe I missed something.

As far as I know, Facebook:

a) Had all the freely provided data, PII/likes/social graph/etc.

b) On Facebook's site or mobile app, the were fingerprinting your device, examining your scrolling/mouse/clicking/other inputs to determine attention on a page

c) Could recreate most nonuser's social graphs just by seeing them as endpoints in registered people's contacts c) On the web, had "like" buttons or ads and their code pretty much everywhere. Therefore they could track most people to most sites.

d.1) Sites could directly provide more information to allow retargeting d.2) Sites could directly provide more information through a host of other services FB offered to the developers

e) On mobile, in the background, scrapped your contacts, GPS, nearby devices (other phones, WiFi, Bluetooth, although tower information may or not be included). Also, had installed by default on a lot of phones

f) On mobile, provided libraries people could import into their apps, mostly but not exclusively for ads. This let them get similar insights into usage patterns as on the web. Also, if people didn't install the FB app, let them get (e)

g) Used your real identity to purchase information about you from the various realworld data merchants

Which did I miss?

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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Please, no more annoying popups asking me if i want to accept cookies or be tracked. I am in the ‘do not care’ camp and i just want to be able to visit sites without having to click accept every time. These consent banners are a false sense of privacy. People who “dont know” are most likely just going to give consent anyway. It’s the same thing as TOS consent.

It would be nice if we could get standardized browser headers similar to DNT that sites could use to automatically fill those things out for us. A standardized set of bit flags like { third party, first party, none } versus { all, only necessary } versus { trackers, cookies, ... } that could go in a "data processing consent header" or some such. Then you would only see those popups if either your browser or the websi…

How is all/only necessary not the fucking DNT header already.

We have and had a standardized way of indicating consent. They just decided to ignore it.

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