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Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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> I still have Premium because ad-free is great! Use an alternative ad-free client if you don't wanna pay for a not working download feature.

Who knows whether you can stop paying for it.

I did when they stopped displaying public dislike counts. Very smooth experience, did not even ask me why I was leaving. YouTube doesn't seem to care much.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Anyone know why they block HN referral requests?

If you click through to JWZ from HN, you will see an NSFW picture with the following text underneath: > Hackers News: A DDos by finance obsessed man-children and brogrammers.

>> Anyone know why they block HN referral requests?

> If you click through to JWZ from HN, you will see an NSFW picture with the following text underneath:

Maybe something to do with reading comprehension.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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> rent-extracting, and private entity? Google isn't really rent seeking with Youtube. It pays for distribution (even for demonetized content), site development, building recommendation systems, content moderation, accessibility though subtitles, etc. That doesn't mean they don't make money on it, that their decisions are always just, or what they promote is good for society, just that they add a lot of value beyond s…

I think maybe this was true five years ago, but at some point they decided to turn the screws and really ramp up advertising. I don’t follow their financials but I assume the site was self sufficient with far fewer ads than today, and that now they are extracting profit (rents) from their established behemoth. Of course I could be wrong.

Of course they're trying to make a profit. Youtube, Google, nor Alphabet are a charity.

"Profit is inherently evil" is a difficult point of view to have on this venture captial forum.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Reminder to not link directly to jwz.org from HN. Here's a sanitized link: (or right click above and open in incognito) https://web.archive.org/web/20220121083848/https://www.jwz.o...

Anyone know why they block HN referral requests?

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Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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How can we create a video platform with high-quality discovery, personalization, subscriptions, comments, voting, and more — while also making it technically incapable of being evil and closed? Are there technologies that we can use to allow network effects to accumulate to software that isn't controlled by a single, rent-extracting, and private entity?

What happens when someone uploads universally abhorrent, illegal, immoral, and harmful videos?

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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post #96

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> I still have Premium because ad-free is great! Use an alternative ad-free client if you don't wanna pay for a not working download feature.

Who knows whether you can stop paying for it.

When I moved to another country where Youtube Red/Premium wasnt available, when I eventually contacted Youtube support they refunded the past 6 months of the subscription.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Why would they not allow audio-only downloads?

This is the main reason why I use NewPipe rather than pay YouTube's ransom. Although I have a high bandwidth plan, I just don't like wasting bandwidth and disk space for video data I'm not actually looking at with my eyes. Most of the time I pop on some intellectual content and listen to it, and the video is often unnecessary. Just give me the damn audio and I'm good. YouTube seems to think this isn't a concern, and…

Afaik using the 144p version would be terrible, as YouTube couples the audio bitrate to the video resolution.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Okay, what again prevents me from making a service that films a browser watching youtube? Could they do anything against that? No? Then ytdl will continue to be a thing.

Maybe fear of law. e.g. recording a movie from theatre is a criminal offence.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Whenever people mentioned Linux UX and computer knowledge I always feel like I should evangelize that Zorin OS is alive and well, now at Zorin Core 16. I use it for my parents, after they got fed up with Windows warnings and pop-ups for Windows 10 upgrade. I am not sure they full understand they are using Linux, they just assume it is a 'free' windows version.

Can you compare Zorin to Ubuntu?

Zorin 16 is based on Ubuntu 20.04.3, so everything you are used to is still there. The only difference is in the UI, with 'Windowish' looking widgets and a focus on usability for non-technical folks.

There are some more extra bells and whistles, as well as service support, in the pro version but I haven't used those in my family computers so I can't comment on that.

I don't want to be dismissive, Zorin is a massive effort but it is mostly a DE change, but it's a DE where they actually thought of the typical non-technical user and cater brilliantly to that.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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99% time I use YouTube the following way: I download the videos for archival, extract the audio tracks and listen to the in an audiobook app (which is good at adjusting the speed up to 3x and remembering positions I pause at in every track I listen) while commuting or doing chores. I think would consume up to 98% less content if I couldn't do it this way.

It is also important to mention that the YouTube website itself (I don't mean the videos - only the HTML&JS part) is among the slowest websites on the internet, painfully slow to use on Raspberry Pi and old computers.

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