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The Polio vaccine is still administered in the US as standard practice.
TB as well.
You can still get them voluntarily but you have to pay from your own pocket.
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There's a decently populous anti-vax vegan community too.
Many vaccines aren't vegan-friendly (they're often grown in eggs), and pretty much all of them go through animal testing stages during clinic trials. It's not at all surprising that vegans would be anti-vax.
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Then it's also not fine for you to leave your house because even if you are vaccinated you can still spread disease. With modern technology, there's no need to leave the home for anything but work and some essentials. So if you have this technological-integrationist view on vaccines then you might as well self-ban from any sort of outside recreation or public gatherings since you would be putting others at risk.
Between the two extremes of not getting vaccinated and self-isolating forever on the off chance you might have a virus is something called reasonable precaution . Getting vaccinated for something like Polio is just such a thing.
This is of course something I don't actually believe. Vaccines should be a personal choice because presumably they are effective enough that the argument for one's responsibility towards other people's health is greatly diminished to a point where we can decide what's a reasonable compromise. I more or less agree with what you're saying in actuality.
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Many vaccines aren't vegan-friendly (they're often grown in eggs), and pretty much all of them go through animal testing stages during clinic trials. It's not at all surprising that vegans would be anti-vax.
Children aren't vegan-friendly either, and the vaccines in question are mostly for children, so does it really matter?
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> anti-vaxxers Instead of having an uneducated opinion, you should know that polio vaccines can sometimes cause... polio. Yeah, that's not even remotely debated, it's well known: https://www.npr.org/2019/11/16/780068006/how-the-oral-polio-... https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/vaccine-derived-p...
Refusing free and approved vaccination programmes is anti-social behaviour and a public health hazard.
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There's a decently populous anti-vax vegan community too.
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But as Nietzsche said, "Out of life’s school of war—what doesn’t kill me, makes me stronger."
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-did-1918-flu-kill...
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It is extremely concerning that this is most likely a mainstream position. Mandatory medical procedure for the common good is a slipperly slope… and it has been made into a mainstream position with pharma marketing and PR working with politicians and “news” agencies for their short-term profits. This could end up in someone coming to power and making high doses of copper cyanide mandatory to everyone who is pro-manda…
Superstition and idiocy being more important than the common good is a slippery slope... what if someone decides that putting out fires is against the will of their God?
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> We have the technology to solve so much but people no longer have the education and thinking process to use it. To me it's rather our blind reliance on technology that is the problem. People have become dependent on pills and drugs (and vaccines) of all sorts, treating the symptoms rather than the cause more often than not. Chronic diseases are arguably more prevalent now than at other point in time: obesity, diabe…
> more prevalent now than at other point in time I would not rule out detection bias: you can't be diagnosed with those if you can't find it before you are dead. And death used to come s lot sooner for most in the past.
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Children aren't vegan-friendly either, and the vaccines in question are mostly for children, so does it really matter?
Children aren’t vegan-friendly, please explain?