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Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by seszett »

roastedpeacock wrote: post #25
md224 wrote: post #9

The interesting thing about this is that YouTube is clearly trying to make it more difficult for non-official clients to stream video, as is evident from the required workaround described here: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/29326#issuecom... The legal defense of youtube-dl is premised on the idea that there's no circumvention occurring [0]. I 100% support youtube-dl and I want YouTube to stop interfer…

> The interesting thing about this is that YouTube is clearly trying to make it more difficult for non-official clients to stream video, as is evident from the required workaround described here: Can not reply with the entire situation but I would not be surprised if Google does not care enough to stop the project through other means but tries to reduce mindless zombie-bots from sucking up bandwidth all day long. If…

> If you have access to a fast connection you may notice even the web player is throttled sometimes.

I'm not sure if that's still the case today, but in my case it used to be because of a dispute between Google and Free/Proxad (a French operator) which led to limited peering for years.

I'm pretty sure in your case it's also just anemic peering capacity between your ISP and Google, rather than Google as a whole lacking bandwidth. I haven't noticed anything at all here for example.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by sitkack »

mrpopo wrote: post #32
tqi wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because he has enough money to look down his nose at people he perceives to be motivated by money?

Rather, I would bet that his stance is that if you are motivated by something else than money, you shouldn't go through VC-backed funds to build your business, because sooner or later someone will squeeze as much money as possible out of your business. I'm thinking of Bandcamp as the most recent example, because there is no doubt that they had good intentions and a real vision, but there are many out there.

Whaaaa https://www.billboard.com/pro/epic-games-buys-bandcamp-acqui...

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by anothernewdude »

hunterb123 wrote: post #34
ZYinMD wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to yt-dlp a few months ago, under the impression that youtube-dl was no longer maintained? At least for youtube purposes, at least for the one crucial issue that forced me to switch. I forgot what the issue was, but it had several PRs sitting there for months and nobody was gonna merge it.

What wasn't maintained for you? In that I mean what feature was missing or broken for you? As software gets more stable, updates should be less frequent. I'm not a fan of feature creep in the name of progress. I am a fan of options though, so if there was an necessity for a fork I support it.

Porn mostly.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by __turbobrew__ »

hunterb123 wrote: post #34
ZYinMD wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to yt-dlp a few months ago, under the impression that youtube-dl was no longer maintained? At least for youtube purposes, at least for the one crucial issue that forced me to switch. I forgot what the issue was, but it had several PRs sitting there for months and nobody was gonna merge it.

What wasn't maintained for you? In that I mean what feature was missing or broken for you? As software gets more stable, updates should be less frequent. I'm not a fan of feature creep in the name of progress. I am a fan of options though, so if there was an necessity for a fork I support it.

As of a few weeks ago my download speeds with youtube-dl were about 150Kb/s and 50Mb/s with yt-dlp. The missing feature from youtube-dl is that it could not download videos in a reasonable amount of time — a fairly necessary feature.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by db48x »

hunterb123 wrote: post #45
heinrich5991 wrote: post #40

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>What wasn't maintained for you? >In that I mean what feature was missing or broken for you? youtube-dl got throttled, it took ages to download videos from Youtube.

Interesting. How did they identify youtube-dl to throttle it, and what was the workaround?

They didn’t. They added a challenge–response step to downloading the video, and throttled any request for the video that doesn’t include the correct response to the challenge. The webpage has some JS that computes the correct response, so you don’t get throttled if you view a video there. You can find the details in the bug tracker if you want.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by hbbio »

The best way to ensure there is no "copyright infringement" would be to shut off Youtube altogether and make sure nobody can see a "music video" without paying a subscription. Other than that, they should assume their content is accessible from any device which was exactly their original intention.

The duplicitous attitude of music executives is that they even pay radios to play some songs in loops to turn public attention to them, but then cry wolf when people need tools to see/listen to them as they want. There are so many great artists that we don't know about because they are struggling to be "discovered" beyond the music industry streamroller...

edit: typos

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by renewiltord »

askura wrote: post #13
jedberg wrote: post #11

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Before when his posts got on the front page his own comments section would fill up with people who don't agree with him. He did not like this, so he made it slightly more difficult to see his content so that most people would just give up. Basically he only wants people who agree with him to read and respond to his content.

Pretty sad way to live your life to be honest. Healthy discussion and reflection is what stops you turning into a pillock and more people need it.

Nah, not listening to the opinions of morons is crucial. 16% of the population has an IQ less than 85. Listening to them is a way to ruin your life.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by jhanschoo »

irrational wrote: post #49
stuu99 wrote: post #42

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>I 100% support youtube-dl and I want YouTube to stop interfering with it Well if you've bought any client-server app over the last 23 years its a bit too late for computing freedom. They are locking down IO with trusted computing, there's been a 23+ year initiative to move to encrypted computing to take input/output control away from the user, this required the co-operation of hardware manufacturers. Windows 10 and…

So, if I don’t use Windows then I’m fine?

If you don't use Windows you may not be able to access the content. See: platforms on which Netflix 4K streaming is supported.

Re: The campaign to shut down YouTube-dl continues

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Post by reshie »

md224 wrote: post #9

The interesting thing about this is that YouTube is clearly trying to make it more difficult for non-official clients to stream video, as is evident from the required workaround described here: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/29326#issuecom... The legal defense of youtube-dl is premised on the idea that there's no circumvention occurring [0]. I 100% support youtube-dl and I want YouTube to stop interfer…

it is practically a wget for web videos and can be forwarded to like mpv. you should look at the supported sites it is quite extensive and youtube being a humble beginning.
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