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Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, first case since 1989

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Re: Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, first case since 1989

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This isn't only a matter of antivaxers. If you're in a country in which Polio has been eradicated, such as the US, double check that you're vaccinated. Various vaccines are no longer recommended because of the virtually nonexistent risk. I know that Africans receive the TB vaccine as part of our regular schedule, where many developed countries do not.

The Polio vaccine is still administered in the US as standard practice.

Re: Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, first case since 1989

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Humans remain humans. Blame the systems that amplify extreme voices.

People are responsible for their own behavior and can make choices. You can make choices. They aren't victims of systems.

> Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living.

— Ad Hominem, 1852

Re: Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, first case since 1989

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are responsible for their own behavior and can make choices. You can make choices. They aren't victims of systems.

Choice is an illusion, it's all just chaos

Choice is an illusion, it's all just an order too big to load into RAM.

Re: Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, first case since 1989

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This isn't only a matter of antivaxers. If you're in a country in which Polio has been eradicated, such as the US, double check that you're vaccinated. Various vaccines are no longer recommended because of the virtually nonexistent risk. I know that Africans receive the TB vaccine as part of our regular schedule, where many developed countries do not.

>Various vaccines are no longer recommended because of the virtually nonexistent risk.

Such as?

Re: Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, first case since 1989

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You might wonder how polio gets reintroduced into Israel or anywhere else. The polio vaccines we currently use are imperfect. The oral vaccine is a weakened form but it mutates in the neighborhood of one in a million cases to become effectively wild polio and some years this accounts for most of the poliomyelitis cases. On the other hand, the fully inactivated injected vaccine is non-sterilizing: it prevents poliomye…

Is this where mRNA vaccines can be useful?

The COVID vaccines suffer from a similar issue. By design they are non-sterilizing because they don't develop immunity in the nasal mucous. It's always been the case that with a large enough exposure the COVID vaccinated would still get infected in the nose and transmit the virus to others.

Re: Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, first case since 1989

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I don’t even think they vaccinate for polio anymore in the US, correct?

It is bundled into the tetanus vaccination.

I dont think it is, DTaP/TDaP are what is given for tetanus, they vaccinate against Diptheria/Tetanus/acellular Pertussis. No polio in there.

Re: Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, first case since 1989

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What most of us consider progress is based on how we manage to spread efficiently as a species, gathering more power and possessions, developing ways to push our inevitable death further away, no matter the cost. Exploit more ressources, other humans, other animals.

And while some of us aren't driven by these things, some always will, and will essentially always capitalize on it. They can take the form of corporations, religious groups, governments... They really are any organised groups. And to make things worse, power is addictive.

It doesn't seem to matter how smart we are, if we zoom out, we're as good as a self destructing virus eating up on its ressources as if it had an infinite supply of it. Following a path driven by greed. Making us a virus that's only smarter at how it gets to the outcome, not at changing the outcome itself.

Re: Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, first case since 1989

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> Indications of the virus have been found in sewage samples in the area Oh this decade is going to be insane. We have the technology to solve so much but people no longer have the education and thinking process to use it. Disease and war back on the front burners.

> people no longer have the education I'm pretty sure we're better educated than any time in human history. EDIT: Thinking about it, I would guess that we don't have as much humanities education as the prior generation (because it's been devalued), and humanities are what address the questions and problems plaguing our society, the big ones that are too complex to yield to scientific method or algorithms.

>> people no longer have the education

> I'm pretty sure we're better educated than any time in human history.

The problem is, people used to realise when they had zero knowledge on a topic.

Now they listen to some nutbar on YouTube, and think they suddenly have a decade worth of medical knowledge.

Re: Four-year-old Israeli child tests positive for polio, first case since 1989

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> anti-vaxxers

Instead of having an uneducated opinion, you should know that polio vaccines can sometimes cause... polio. Yeah, that's not even remotely debated, it's well known:

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/16/780068006/how-the-oral-polio-...

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/vaccine-derived-p...

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