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And one need have the other so I can't imagine what exactly it is you're talking about in the context of a reply to the statement "Ads are fine."
Ads targeted based on the content they are placed next to don't need to track anybody. While they might be annoying (i.e. take up space / time) they don't have any privacy concerns.
Depending on how they're served to the end user.
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Yes, everyone knows. That's why there are people in this thread and others like it, on a website catering to highly technical people, who are surprised at how deep the tracking goes and what it is used for. Surely then, the average person is much more informed!
i encourage you to talk to an "average person" about this some time. check with your parents to see how much they assume they're being tracked online. most people i've discussed the topic with misunderstand how much they're being tracked, but assume that they are being tracked more than they actually are, not less. and they're totally okay with that.
> and they're totally okay with that
No. In my experience they are very much not ok with it at all but have absolutely no idea what to do about it. I know what I'm doing with computers and I have difficulty figuring out all the different ways info can leak and how to plug those holes. In many cases you can't plug those holes without opting out of various services entirely. We badly need regulation preventing this stuff because in practice you can't vote with your feet or your wallet.
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And then you can't use the incognito mode when you don't want to mess up your recommendations.
YouTube has a setting to pause watch/search history. I'm sure they still track these things being the scenes, but I've found that removing videos from watch history is enough to keep similar things off my feed.
The ad industry as a whole is absolutely untrustworthy. Even you pay you can't trust not to be tracked.
As someone that has spent a sizable amount of my career in ad products, the outrage here is kind of (sadly) funny. A conversion pixel? Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. Pretty sure they were breaking all kinds of PII laws.
> Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. I really don’t understand the goal with vague statements like this that can’t even provide even the slightest hint of specifics. What specific data? Even a single example would make this anecdote useful. Instead it feels more like a brag. “I know something but I’m not telling” but in this case the comment…
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Informed or not, they were not allowed to give consent. No problem with people consenting to be tracked.
Please, no more annoying popups asking me if i want to accept cookies or be tracked. I am in the ‘do not care’ camp and i just want to be able to visit sites without having to click accept every time. These consent banners are a false sense of privacy. People who “dont know” are most likely just going to give consent anyway. It’s the same thing as TOS consent.
Then you would only see those popups if either your browser or the website didn't support or wasn't sending those headers for whatever reason.
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> This is it and is how the online advertising industry has worked for over 25 years. Rotten to the core.
If you have a better way to do it people will literally never stop throwing money at you.
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> Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. I really don’t understand the goal with vague statements like this that can’t even provide even the slightest hint of specifics. What specific data? Even a single example would make this anecdote useful. Instead it feels more like a brag. “I know something but I’m not telling” but in this case the comment…
I think you’re giving Meta a break with best intention operation. I really think web tracking is much more nefarious than you are giving credit to.
As someone that has spent a sizable amount of my career in ad products, the outrage here is kind of (sadly) funny. A conversion pixel? Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. Pretty sure they were breaking all kinds of PII laws.
Well I am ready for my hairs to stand up. What did the data faucet contain?
It was a straightforward call to get info about the user, including name, email, interests, etc. Their friends list. Info about all their friends, including all the same details. And so on.
There was a EULA where the developer had to promise to delete all the info when the user signed out of the game, and not to share the info. That was the only security.
The project fizzled, but when the Cambridge Analytica news broke, it confused me, because my recollection is EVERYBODY had all those lists of user info. Seriously, tens of thousands of different companies, with the only thing stopping them was a pinky promise.
As someone that has spent a sizable amount of my career in ad products, the outrage here is kind of (sadly) funny. A conversion pixel? Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. Pretty sure they were breaking all kinds of PII laws.
> Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. I really don’t understand the goal with vague statements like this that can’t even provide even the slightest hint of specifics. What specific data? Even a single example would make this anecdote useful. Instead it feels more like a brag. “I know something but I’m not telling” but in this case the comment…
It’s changed a bit recently with GDPR, the Cambridge Analytica scandal and some third party cookie privacy stuff so it’s a bit less insidious now, but it’s still pretty bad.
As someone that has spent a sizable amount of my career in ad products, the outrage here is kind of (sadly) funny. A conversion pixel? Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. Pretty sure they were breaking all kinds of PII laws.
