Earlier quoted context omitted.
My point is that it's collecting way more data than the single bit it needs in order to tell "yes this ad has been seen, increment the counter".
It's not just about telling if an ad has been seen, but what a user does on your site after clicking on the ad. Do they immediately bounce? Do they buy something? You want to be able to see that you are actually getting a positive return from the money you are spending on ads.
Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
111–120 of 232 posts
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is it and is how the online advertising industry has worked for over 25 years. In its simplest form the pixel is used to attribute an ad view/click to a conversion event. At the beginning of the online ad industry that’s all it did, advertisers for the first time had the ability to directly, in real time, see the effectiveness of their ads. The economic value and GDP generated due to this innovation is immeasura…
> This is it and is how the online advertising industry has worked for over 25 years. Rotten to the core.
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is it and is how the online advertising industry has worked for over 25 years. In its simplest form the pixel is used to attribute an ad view/click to a conversion event. At the beginning of the online ad industry that’s all it did, advertisers for the first time had the ability to directly, in real time, see the effectiveness of their ads. The economic value and GDP generated due to this innovation is immeasura…
This is also why even Apple and Mozilla (companies with a vested interest in harming the ad ecosystem) are pushing for various privacy-preserving ad attribution technologies. Nobody objects to UberEats knowing that their Tiktok ads are working or not - they object to Tiktok cross-referencing the data from UberEats and everywhere else to build an interest profile on them.
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is honestly very few considering how many different places Uber Eats probably advertises on. I work on helping new Shopify merchants get more early sales, and ads are super important for that to happen. Open up any small and growing e-commerce store and you'll see at least this many. Without ads, you don't find these small businesses, and all consumers just go to Amazon, or other large established marketplaces.
Not on the main topic, but is there a way I can get in touch to discuss how you might be able to help us and our Shopify shop?
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is it and is how the online advertising industry has worked for over 25 years. In its simplest form the pixel is used to attribute an ad view/click to a conversion event. At the beginning of the online ad industry that’s all it did, advertisers for the first time had the ability to directly, in real time, see the effectiveness of their ads. The economic value and GDP generated due to this innovation is immeasura…
This is also why even Apple and Mozilla (companies with a vested interest in harming the ad ecosystem) are pushing for various privacy-preserving ad attribution technologies. Nobody objects to UberEats knowing that their Tiktok ads are working or not - they object to Tiktok cross-referencing the data from UberEats and everywhere else to build an interest profile on them.
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#116I'm no ads expert but my guess would be they run ads on TikTok and have the pixel on UberEats to figure out the conversion rate on those ads.
This was my first thought. How is this not everyone's first thought?
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#117As someone that has spent a sizable amount of my career in ad products, the outrage here is kind of (sadly) funny. A conversion pixel? Hah, if you only had an idea of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand. Pretty sure they were breaking all kinds of PII laws.
What PII laws are there in the US?
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is honestly very few considering how many different places Uber Eats probably advertises on. I work on helping new Shopify merchants get more early sales, and ads are super important for that to happen. Open up any small and growing e-commerce store and you'll see at least this many. Without ads, you don't find these small businesses, and all consumers just go to Amazon, or other large established marketplaces.
Not on the main topic, but is there a way I can get in touch to discuss how you might be able to help us and our Shopify shop?
The hard part (as far as I can tell) is product market fit and finding your customer base. Once that's established, you have some momentum, leading to repeat customers and lower acquisition costs. IE: once an ad network has some existing customers to build a model on, it's cheaper to target ads on similar customers.
But that initial part is very hard. New privacy rules, like Apple's changes, are a good thing generally, but they make it more expensive for small businesses to acquire initial customers because ads are less effective, so you have to pay for more of them to find your customers. That gives Amazon (and other established competition) a massive advantage. They know everyone deeply and can target everywhere very precisely.
I've heard that the Shopify subreddits are well liked by merchants. Good info there.
There's also the Gurus that can provide some support for free, as well as you can hire an 'Expert' through Shopify to get even more help.
All this is to say the most groan-inducing phrase in business: you've got to spend more to make more. And there's no guarantee that you'll earn it back because business is hard.
Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
DNT is not the solution though. DNT status is not readable by JS (by design), so DNT cannot be implemented in the client. So all tracking calls are still made over the network. It is then up to the server processing those calls to drop them if the DNT header is present. Thus, there is no way for a user to verify that DNT is actually honored. Hotjar is probably the only one (claiming to be) honoring DNT consistently.…
That's not true. There's Navigator.doNotTrack[0]. It works, but it's deprecated and I'm not sure what the replacement is. [0]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Navigator/d...