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Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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Good luck with that. The list of companies to avoid is pretty long.

All you need to do is unplug your modem and you're good to go.

If only it was that easy. The supermarket near me has a "data collection" notice about some tracking BS and to ask an associate for details and to opt-out (yes, as if the minimum-wage teenager would know anything about it, and how would the opt-out even work).

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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"I don't know why you are upset that I'm stabbing you when I've been poisoning your all these years ha ha ha".

Not really accurate analogy. More like “you’re only finding out today that I’ve been poisoning you the entire time?”

In other words, victim blaming.

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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The amount of tracking on this page is astounding. Just from the screenshot, I count 9 trackers:

   Uber Eats' own analytics
   sc-static.net (Snapchat? whois doesn't reveal anything.)
   Google Tag Manager
   Facebook Connect
   Yahoo
   TikTok
   ispot.tv (Some sort of ad management solution.)
   Hotjar (Behavioural analytics.)
   Bing

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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at least hotjar respects do-not-track settings

DNT is not the solution though. DNT status is not readable by JS (by design), so DNT cannot be implemented in the client. So all tracking calls are still made over the network. It is then up to the server processing those calls to drop them if the DNT header is present. Thus, there is no way for a user to verify that DNT is actually honored. Hotjar is probably the only one (claiming to be) honoring DNT consistently.…

If DNT is sent when loading the initial page it is totally possible to serve HTML that doesn't include the tracking scripts. If you load your tracking scripts you've already gone against your objective since even the initial HTTP request that loads the tracking library leaks the user's IP address and browser fingerprint back to the tracker.

This is not a defense of DNT by the way - it has other problems such as the increased fingerprinting surface, etc.

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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Protip: if user privacy is a concern to you, then not supporting these companies (by handing them your data) is a good place to start.

No. This needs to be criminalized. Not liking a good or service is one thing. Having things done to you or your information without consent for the purpose of spying on you is stalking with extra steps. Many of these companies still deprive you of your privacy even without using their services by developing shadow profiles on you.

The purpose isn't to spy on you. It's to track the performance of an ad shown to you on tiktok.

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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> If they are criminal why would you use them? People don’t give money to scammers because they know their scammers. It’s the same with privacy issues, people who don’t know what’s happening can’t make informed choices.

>people who don’t know what’s happening can’t make informed choices. it's really distasteful how privacy advocates always assume that everybody who doesn't feel the same way they do is uninformed. the average person has a basic understanding that companies keep track of them online. everybody who's spent more than five minutes online without an adblocker understands retargeting. it's not that people don't understand,…

The fact that people suspect Facebook of outright listening to them (even when that's not the case) suggest people aren't fully aware of what data is collected, how it is used and how it can be misused.

"Facebook listening to people" wouldn't be noteworthy if people weren't creeped out by it.

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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> If they are criminal why would you use them? People don’t give money to scammers because they know their scammers. It’s the same with privacy issues, people who don’t know what’s happening can’t make informed choices.

>people who don’t know what’s happening can’t make informed choices. it's really distasteful how privacy advocates always assume that everybody who doesn't feel the same way they do is uninformed. the average person has a basic understanding that companies keep track of them online. everybody who's spent more than five minutes online without an adblocker understands retargeting. it's not that people don't understand,…

Informed or not, they were not allowed to give consent. No problem with people consenting to be tracked.

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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No. This needs to be criminalized. Not liking a good or service is one thing. Having things done to you or your information without consent for the purpose of spying on you is stalking with extra steps. Many of these companies still deprive you of your privacy even without using their services by developing shadow profiles on you.

The purpose isn't to spy on you. It's to track the performance of an ad shown to you on tiktok.

Which collects data on you and creates a profile. Whether it's currently used to increment an impression counter doesn't mean it can't be used for something more nefarious down the line.

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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at least hotjar respects do-not-track settings

DNT is not the solution though. DNT status is not readable by JS (by design), so DNT cannot be implemented in the client. So all tracking calls are still made over the network. It is then up to the server processing those calls to drop them if the DNT header is present. Thus, there is no way for a user to verify that DNT is actually honored. Hotjar is probably the only one (claiming to be) honoring DNT consistently.…

> DNT status is not readable by JS (by design), so DNT cannot be implemented in the client.

But the JS is served by a server, which can read the DNT header, so why can't it just write different JS based on the content of the header? It can be as simple as writing "let do_not_track = true;" if the header is present.

Re: Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

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> This needs to be criminalized Literally criminalised? As in you’ll throw people in jail for putting up a pixel? Made illegal, sure.

Wouldn't be a bad idea to be honest If they're acting so antagonistically against GDPR maybe , for some of the most egregious cases, throwing some people in jail will do the trick I mean, whoever does the whole song and dance for rejecting cookies that shows a loading gif and takes a while does deserve it And if you think I'm exaggerating, guess who has the best info now on the Ukraine war? Tiktok.

> If they're acting so antagonistically against GDPR maybe throwing some people in jail will do the trick

This is how you get a legal code like America's, where a cop and prosecutor can put almost anyone in jail with the flimsiest excuse.

I understand the impulse. But the solution to bad enforcement isn't ratcheting up penalties. It's increasing enforcement.

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