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Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by happymellon » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 9:23 PM UTC

mytailorisrich wrote: post #60

happymellon wrote: post #53

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One country invaded another. There is no other position to take. If Putin didn't Putin then there would be no deaths. Ukraine were not planning on invading Russia.

Yes one country invaded the other and that invasion should rightly be condemned. That does not mean that one side is absolutely 'good' in everything and the other absolutely 'evil'. A few days ago Ukrainian forces apparently shot dead an Israeli civilian at a road checkpoint because they though he was Chechen, for instance. It's been barely mentioned. Then, sorry for bringing this up yet again, but "one country invad…

> > A few days ago Ukrainian forces apparently shot dead an Israeli civilian at a road checkpoint

> https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-invasion-israeli-dj-kille...

> However, Mr Brodsky's family reportedly told Israel's Channel 12 news site that they blame the "dictator" Vladimir Putin for his death.

I saw it mentioned in few UK news outlets. And the family blame Putin, as they should. If Putin hadn't put everyone under this much stress to survive then there wouldn't be any question about this DJ surviving. An accident during a period of surviving what is approaching a genocide, with indiscriminate murder from a tyrant, will happen.

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by mytailorisrich » Sun, Mar 06, 2022, 12:18 AM UTC

happymellon wrote: post #111

mytailorisrich wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes one country invaded the other and that invasion should rightly be condemned. That does not mean that one side is absolutely 'good' in everything and the other absolutely 'evil'. A few days ago Ukrainian forces apparently shot dead an Israeli civilian at a road checkpoint because they though he was Chechen, for instance. It's been barely mentioned. Then, sorry for bringing this up yet again, but "one country invad…

> > A few days ago Ukrainian forces apparently shot dead an Israeli civilian at a road checkpoint > https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-invasion-israeli-dj-kille... > However, Mr Brodsky's family reportedly told Israel's Channel 12 news site that they blame the "dictator" Vladimir Putin for his death. I saw it mentioned in few UK news outlets. And the family blame Putin, as they should. If Putin hadn't put everyone un…

Yes, I saw that... Civilian summarily executed by Ukrainian forces (which is not an 'accident' and one may even call this a war crime, to use the technical term) and the emphasise is on "parents blame Putin".

I'll rest my case.

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by happymellon » Sun, Mar 06, 2022, 8:50 AM UTC

mytailorisrich wrote: post #112

happymellon wrote: post #111

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> > A few days ago Ukrainian forces apparently shot dead an Israeli civilian at a road checkpoint > https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-invasion-israeli-dj-kille... > However, Mr Brodsky's family reportedly told Israel's Channel 12 news site that they blame the "dictator" Vladimir Putin for his death. I saw it mentioned in few UK news outlets. And the family blame Putin, as they should. If Putin hadn't put everyone un…

Yes, I saw that... Civilian summarily executed by Ukrainian forces (which is not an 'accident' and one may even call this a war crime, to use the technical term) and the emphasise is on "parents blame Putin". I'll rest my case.

What case?

> the emphasise is on "parents blame Putin".

Definitely not the emphasis in the link I provided.

You appear to be making up your own narrative.

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by traaaap » Sun, Mar 06, 2022, 12:02 PM UTC

Kaze404 wrote: post #105

bhobs wrote: post #24

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They go out of their way to try and represent both sides of a coin, to a fault. If it’s clearly raining, and they have a guest on to talk about the rain, they will also have a guest on who will try and argue “oh these precipitation levels don’t constitute rain” etc. A bit contrived but you get the idea.

Except for trans women in articles calling them rapists, which is interesting considering they had no problems interviewing a known cis porn actress who has raped multiple people on set.

The article was titled: "We're being pressured into sex by some trans women" [1], and it's a genuine phenomenon.

Note that it says "some" - there are indeed some men who want to be women pressuring actual women who are only attracted to women, to pursue sexual relationships with them. In effect, it's no different to lesbians being told variations of "I'll fuck you straight", and similar homophobic abuse, by other heterosexual men.

[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57853385

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by Kaze404 » Sun, Mar 06, 2022, 11:10 PM UTC

traaaap wrote: post #114

Kaze404 wrote: post #105

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Except for trans women in articles calling them rapists, which is interesting considering they had no problems interviewing a known cis porn actress who has raped multiple people on set.

The article was titled: "We're being pressured into sex by some trans women" [1], and it's a genuine phenomenon. Note that it says "some" - there are indeed some men who want to be women pressuring actual women who are only attracted to women, to pursue sexual relationships with them. In effect, it's no different to lesbians being told variations of "I'll fuck you straight", and similar homophobic abuse, by other het…

1) That has nothing to do with my point that no trans women were included in the article, disproving the claim that they care about presenting both sides

2) What do men have to do with this? Are you implying trans women are men?

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by talideon » Sun, Mar 06, 2022, 11:26 PM UTC

Veen wrote: post #89

VictorPath wrote: post #76

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Or when the Irish elected Sinn Féin MPs to parliament and the voices of the MPs were banned from the BBC.

Those Sinn Fein MPs also happened to occupy leadership positions in the IRA, a proscribed terrorist organisation responsible for assassinating several MPs, launching mortar attacks against Downing Street, blowing up a hotel the PM was staying in, and murdering numerous civilians in indiscriminate bombings.

I would recommend you search for "Military Reaction Force" - the terrorism started with the British Army.

Re: Advice on accessing BBC News

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Post by traaaap » Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 6:10 PM UTC

Kaze404 wrote: post #115

traaaap wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article was titled: "We're being pressured into sex by some trans women" [1], and it's a genuine phenomenon. Note that it says "some" - there are indeed some men who want to be women pressuring actual women who are only attracted to women, to pursue sexual relationships with them. In effect, it's no different to lesbians being told variations of "I'll fuck you straight", and similar homophobic abuse, by other het…

1) That has nothing to do with my point that no trans women were included in the article, disproving the claim that they care about presenting both sides 2) What do men have to do with this? Are you implying trans women are men?

1. This is demonstrably incorrect, please read the article. They interviewed Rose of Dawn and Debbie Hayton, both of whom identify as transwomen, and both of whom, being decent people, are appalled by the sort of sexual coercion that the article describes.

2. Yes: by definition, transwomen are men who want to be women to such an extent that they will attempt to masquerade as such in everyday life - adopting typically female names and attire, often also taking hormonal treatments to feminise their appearance, and sometimes even undergoing genital surgery.