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Post by politician »

grujicd wrote: post #430
politician wrote: post #381

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You oppose sanctions. Do you support a global nuclear exchange? Sometimes bad things are necessary to forestall worse things. The stark reality of Mutually Assured Destruction is that America will turn Russia, its military, its cities, its dirt into radioactive glass if they launch their nuclear weapons. Look at this reality in the face and then decide if you still oppose sanctions.

Most sanctions have inverse effect of strengthening the authoritharian government. Maybe if you have free press and strong oposition you can use sanctions to turn population against governemnt. However, my experience of suffering under combination of sanctions and authorian government is that dictatorship gets stronger in these cases. I would even support sanctions in the 90-ties against Serbia if they increased our…

A weak, underfed population whose military cannot keep its vehicles in working order isn’t going to be invading its neighbors with any degree of success.

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Post by TravelPiglet »

nathanlied wrote: post #432
artyomxyz wrote: post #378

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In some way you’re right. But it’s important to note that we haven’t chosen this government, we haven’t chosen this country we live in. I personally lost any hope to change it one year earlier after participating in pro-Navalny protests. Now, I just don’t want to have anything in common with this government. I’m choosing another one. And I’m not going to pay taxes to Russian government anymore

I've been finding it very easy to empathise with Russians in this. After what we've seen happening in so-called "enlightened" Western democracies, with all our press freedoms, and yet we still have homeopathy advocates, far-right (and left!) conspiracies, and all kinds of gnashing of teeth over "fake news". How can I not look at Russian society, with a far more controlled environment, and think "how can Russians not…

I’ve yet to see any homeopathy advocates and conspiracy theorists attacking other countries. Stop pretending it’s the same thing.

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Post by lowkey »

sharpneli wrote: post #364
lowkey wrote: post #336

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I feel like you are conveniently skipping the part where millions of ordinary Russians are being economically devastated by broad brush sanctions that punish the poor and middle class Russians who are innocent of war crimes, simply because they were unfortunate to be born in the wrong country and they may justifiably be afraid for their lives if they protest. For those who say beat the war drums, punish them all, jus…

The tax income produced by those people is being used to fund the war. It is unfortunate but it's better to have a person become poor than another person being bombed. Ín a world without nukes they would be bombed too right now, because wars have a tendency of doing that regardless of who fights.

Meanwhile the White House Press secretary, yesterday, defended the US decision to continue buying Russian oil.

Since the US is also directly funding the Russian’s ability to wage war in Ukraine, would you advocate for the US and other Western countries who continue to buy Russian Oil to sanction themselves?

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Post by gip »

jquery wrote: post #308
baskethead wrote: post #272

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I think only lesser people would think all Russians support Putin. Every Russian I know in Silicon Valley that are sickened by Putin. Eric Stalwall, the House Representative in East Bay (of the SF Bay Area) proposed to kick all Russian students out of the US. That sickened me and I won't forget this going forward (he ran for Democratic nominee for President in 2020). How can you blame citizens of the country for the…

I know lots of Russians that support Putin, unfortunately. I wish it were as simple as Putin was acting alone but he is a popular Russian figure.

I have family / friends in Russia and outside Russia and I’m seeing the same thing: Putin is popular. I suspect it had to do with how the Russian identity is build.

I keep telling these people that a country is defined by what it does in the world, not by what it is or was. But at the end of the day I think a lot of them consider Russia as a « powerful » country that should have an empire.

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

jquery wrote: post #308
baskethead wrote: post #272

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I think only lesser people would think all Russians support Putin. Every Russian I know in Silicon Valley that are sickened by Putin. Eric Stalwall, the House Representative in East Bay (of the SF Bay Area) proposed to kick all Russian students out of the US. That sickened me and I won't forget this going forward (he ran for Democratic nominee for President in 2020). How can you blame citizens of the country for the…

I know lots of Russians that support Putin, unfortunately. I wish it were as simple as Putin was acting alone but he is a popular Russian figure.

I think if you multiply the number of Russians who protested against the Ukraine invasion by 100, it's 1% of Russians, max.

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Post by the_mitsuhiko »

formvoltron wrote: post #170
therusskiy wrote: post #128

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it's not North Korea YET, but it's pretty damn close right now. Remember Belarus protests a year ago, Lukashenko lost the vote by something like 95%. Almost everyone went to protest against Lukashenko, but because he holds on military the protests couldn't do anything. When it comes to how much military Putin has, Lukashenko is not even close.

Lukashenko & Belarus is different than Russia because in Belarus, it is all the people vs the Lukashenko regime PLUS Putin's regime. In Moscow there is no foreign influencer. It is 11 million Muskovites vs the Kremlin. Who would win that battle? Even just 2 million people shaking their keys would send a message that Putin needs to change course.

You can make that argument for any repressive country and regime. Why do North Koreans not rise up? There is not much difference between Russia, Belarus and North Korea with regards to brainwashing of population and repression.

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Post by quadcore »

vmception wrote: post #387
quadcore wrote: post #375

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DAI and MIM are KYC-ed at their root so I wouldnt go for them, Edit: you have to be compliant to a subset of KYC to run their api - sorry i dont have the detail on top of my head, I do know its the case for USDC and last I checked DAI was KYC-rooted too. Everything thats stablecoin usd is KYC-rooted but TerraUSD which you cant purchase with usd on some major fiat ramp. Also KYC is recursive right, if youre KYCed you…

What do you mean by that, you can buy and earn DAI and MIM without KYC, and they continue to function autonomously whether the founders have a regulatory issue, have survived and maintained their peg during volatile stress tests with the collateral, and they can be sold without KYC, they also cannot freeze an individual address Edit: to your edit, thats not accurate, all data is available onchain and can be read, new…

thats not accurate, all data is available onchain and can be read, new dai and mim can be created by adding collateral, programmatic interaction is done via ABIs, there is no need for a third party API even if they are offering one

Youre saying, atm, all solutions are KYC-rooted but you can create a grey area yourself without being KYCed yourself (if youre lucky). Youre certainly right.

FYI I was giving a practical advice to someone in need of a sure grey-enough area thats available now.

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Post by aszantu »

BossingAround wrote: post #418
tsol wrote: post #376

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> I don't support Russia, but I can see why they want Ukraine, a country that is in their borders, to stay in their orbit. This is a complete red herring. They don't want Ukraine to "stay in their orbit," they are colonizers that are fighting against Ukraine's independence. Putin said he doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO. Nobody in NATO is eager to accept Ukraine. Ukraine said they'd stay independent. Now, Putin is s…

Looks like merica does negotiate with Neonazis though https://www.stpete4peace.org/Ukraine

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Post by blub »

mantas wrote: post #283
lolinder wrote: post #61

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I'm all for annihilating Russia's economy (even if it means civilians are caught in the crossfire) but the treatment GP received after leaving is extremely disheartening. The goal should be to welcome fleeing Russians with open arms and make it as easy as possible for them to permanently put down roots.

The problem is how to separate Russians fleeing Putin from Russians who just look for financial comfort and still support Putin. One of stark examples is Turks in Germany still voting for Erdogan.

You’re for annihilating the economy of a nuclear power with thousands of warheads? How do you imagine that a nuclear failed state looks and acts like?

I swear, reading comments like these on social media makes me realize that a disturbingly large number of people are irrational about war.

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Post by llIIllIIllIIl »

therusskiy wrote: post #6

I managed to escape the country yesterday, had to flight to Egypt of all places, because ALL (even business) tickets were sold out. The recent news is that starting March 6 all international flights are suspended, the trap has closed. The disheartening thing is that even if you never supported Putin, other countries treat you as enemy. I am at Georgia now and banks refuse to open bank accounts to Russians, and I need…

Go fight against Russian zombies in Ukraine to win your right to have a bank account.
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