Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everywhere I've seen anyone motivate restrictions on Russian citizens it's been about pushing them to revolt against their government, not about punishing. I don't know whether it makes sense, but it does seem like one of few avenues to try to get rid of putin that has low chance of resulting in atomic war.
Didn't see any revolting Americans when the Iraq War was initiated.
Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends
291–300 of 933 posts
Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s not only about revolting, but without a free press, economic sanctions are one way to get people to know that something is going on. Russian citizens may not even know what is happening, but when they suddenly can’t buy thing, when Apple Pay stops working, when costs skyrocket… that gets people to pay attention.
But at what cost? I am pretty sure that everyday Russians do know that something is going on but I have trouble justifying broad sanctions against the poor and middle-class citizens of Russia, Iran or Venezuela - especially since many of them oppose their authoritarian leaders. After all their real crime is simply losing the birth lottery by being born in an authoritarian regime.
Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends
#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
Americans about US wars: 'we cannot do anything about our government - they engage in wars and we couldn't stop them if we tried' Americans about Russian wars: 'the average Joes need to go out to the streets and bring Putin down'
When was the last time the US invaded, with an intent to never, ever leave? When was the last time the US invaded, and slaughtered civilians, on purpose, just to spread terror. Not by accident, or a rogue element, but purposefully. When was the last time the US jailed, not by a mistake in justice but on purpose, all who dared speak out about her actions? And killed them when possible? Many reading the above will say…
This isn't an ethnic genocide. Had Putin wanted to kill civilians you wouldn't have 100s of deaths but millions like in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Just like the US he is looking to overturn the government.
The reality is that some people in Ukraine (Donbas and large portion of the East) do support Russia. Truth is never black and white.
Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends
#294I managed to escape the country yesterday, had to flight to Egypt of all places, because ALL (even business) tickets were sold out. The recent news is that starting March 6 all international flights are suspended, the trap has closed. The disheartening thing is that even if you never supported Putin, other countries treat you as enemy. I am at Georgia now and banks refuse to open bank accounts to Russians, and I need…
Have you considered being paid in, for example, USDC? You could then get a visa card that you could top up with it for spending.
B) Opening the visa card will have the same consternation as any bank. You’ll need to start transacting more in the stablecoin, until banking partners are found.
Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends
#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> My faint glimmer of hope here is that the West finally takes actions to stop enabling oligarchs and they can start with denying them real estate in Western urban centers Recently, Italy seized real estate and other properties of Russian oligarchs and their lackeys, worth ~$150M.
Wish they’d start doing the same with our own oligarchs. Every superyacht is a crime against our children. The amount of resources those absorb that could have been spent combating global warming, on health care, on housing, is just absolutely disgusting. Not to mention the 10000 dollar bottles of champagne, the massive mansions.. so gross. And if you don’t think we have oligarchs.. why do you think you pay 200 dolla…
Bezos $500 million dollar yacht is an example (dismantle a bridge to get the yacht through, where is the talk about re-mantleing said bridge, did it make it better? Stronger? Refresh components?)
Regardless, if youre issues' require actions against, mega yachts should be target #1.
Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends
#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you considered being paid in, for example, USDC? You could then get a visa card that you could top up with it for spending.
I've been a big crypto sceptic for a long time, but with the current situation I had to deposit a lot of money to Binance, because Russian banks/government has stopped allowing people to withdraw USD from ATMs, forbidden transfers to other countries (only $5k/m to relatives), forbidden to cross borders with more than $10k (not they are possible to cross at all now).
If you do get closer to what the person you responded to said:
A) USDC can freeze individual addresses. So can USDT. Alternative stablecoins like DAI and MIM cannot.
B) Opening the visa card will have the same consternation as any bank. You’ll need to start transacting more in the stablecoin, until banking partners are found.
Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends
#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
"No, it just ensures that the only people left in Russia are the ones who support Putin." It does not, as only a very tiny fraction of those who want to get out, can actually get out. And some choose to stay because of family, buisness, whatever. But those who left will be the reminder of the status quo for everyone - especially if it was the well educated who left. "And like I said, Ukrainians have no choice." But t…
Russia declared a cease-fire to evacuate civilians but has already broken it. > And have you stopped the iraq war? Or closed guantanamo? Or stopped the war in yemen? I'm not American. Ask a yank. > But this is the choice of the ukrainian government. I am against mandatory conscripting and would not accept to be force drafted myself. And I would not want to fight next to people who might flee any second. Ask a woman w…
Any support this is actually the case besides "the ukranian officials said ... "?
Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends
#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
Didn't see any revolting Americans when the Iraq War was initiated.
Sanctions against the US for the Iraq war would have been totally legitimate. What exactly is your point?
Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends
#299I managed to escape the country yesterday, had to flight to Egypt of all places, because ALL (even business) tickets were sold out. The recent news is that starting March 6 all international flights are suspended, the trap has closed. The disheartening thing is that even if you never supported Putin, other countries treat you as enemy. I am at Georgia now and banks refuse to open bank accounts to Russians, and I need…
Maybe there is something you can work out with TerraUSD (algorithmic stablecoin) and localbitcoins.com
But yes a basket of stablecoins is good right now
Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends
#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Wrong question. If Russians have a choice, why not Ukrainians? Ask the Russians who are bombing them and preventing them from leaving. Russia has already broken the cease-fire meant to evacuate civilians. Or ask the Russians who started the war. Ask the Russians carrying out their leadership's orders. Russians are the ones taking away Ukrainians' choices.
Their government prevents them leaving too if they are male. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/02/25/russia-i... And that people on the outside are helpful was proven in World War II were many germans fled.
Ah yes so effective. Only 40 million killed.