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Post by formvoltron »

jacquesm wrote: post #43
formvoltron wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are afraid Putin will use nuclear weapons. We don't like that he came from a KGB background and that he seems to be friends with mafia. And that he likes to assassinate his rivals. If the Russian people are so much against Putin and on the side of the West, then why not arrange them to all leave their apartments at the same time, to walk into their central squares, and to start shaking their keys -- as the Czechs…

Fair chance it would turn into a bloodbath. Better would a national strike. Equally difficult to organize but much harder to attack.

I'm talking about ALL the people that are against Putin. Which if this guy is to be believed is most of the people. They are not going to kill most of their own people. A million people marching in Moscow would change minds.

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Post by jacquesm »

vbezhenar wrote: post #45
jacquesm wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Seems like most of the disinformation is currently coming from the NATO/Ukraine side. Sure... /s That's probably why the West has just enacted a law that whoever talks about the war in Ukraine in terms of war will face all kinds of trouble. Oh, wait. Really, you can't make this stuff up, do you actually believe that people on HN will read what you say and then dutifully turn to Pravda for their news from now on?

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> West countries have similar laws.

Sorry, but no, we don't.

> They even have an entire culture: Cancel Culture.

You are either unaware of what cancel culture means or you are changing the subject.

> While I hate every discrimination of speech freedom, you can't paint Russia as something unique, West is an example they follow.

I think the repression of the free media in Russia is quite uniquely all it's own.

It's the only country that I'm aware of where the head of state gets a dead journalist for their birthday.

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Post by agumonkey »

arka2147483647 wrote: post #7
daenz wrote: post #2

This may very well be true, but I'm having trouble believing anything, from anyone, about the conflict. There is so much propaganda around the subject, that unless you are personally connected to an official source, I believe you can't know with any reasonable certainty. The primary source for this story appears to be public Google Trends data.

This is what russian trolls want. So much uncertainty, that you don’t belive anything. Not even truth.

Just today someone posted of a video involving brit journalists' car being shot

It's a 'shocker' sequence, but then someone explains "one of the journalist was involved into staging false interviews before". So I thought it would be nice to share the article talking about the previous staged interviews, as a cautious tale for all to avoid responding to shocking civilian shot videos. Few minutes ago someone told me that the article may be staged by another group to spread lies about brit journalists.

"lies" all the way up

Re: Russians are trying to flee – data from Google Trends

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Post by moonshinefe »

daenz wrote: post #13
slim wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

maybe someone else is falsifying google trends ?

I can't even confirm their statements, but I may be using google trends wrong: >More Russians are asking Google “how to leave Russia” than have done so in 18 years since such data became public. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&ge...

Why would they be searching in English? Also those numbers are "relative popularity" on a scale of 0-100. I'm seeing what the article claims here, more or less. But it's a little unclear exactly what search terms they were all checking.

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Post by ransom1538 »

daenz wrote: post #2

This may very well be true, but I'm having trouble believing anything, from anyone, about the conflict. There is so much propaganda around the subject, that unless you are personally connected to an official source, I believe you can't know with any reasonable certainty. The primary source for this story appears to be public Google Trends data.

Really? They all have cellphones now filming it.

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Post by gameswithgo »

daenz wrote: post #2

This may very well be true, but I'm having trouble believing anything, from anyone, about the conflict. There is so much propaganda around the subject, that unless you are personally connected to an official source, I believe you can't know with any reasonable certainty. The primary source for this story appears to be public Google Trends data.

Don’t fall into the trap of thinking things are unknowable. Madness lies at the extremes of believing everything and believing nothing

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Post by hidudeurcool »

arka2147483647 wrote: post #7
daenz wrote: post #2

This may very well be true, but I'm having trouble believing anything, from anyone, about the conflict. There is so much propaganda around the subject, that unless you are personally connected to an official source, I believe you can't know with any reasonable certainty. The primary source for this story appears to be public Google Trends data.

This is what russian trolls want. So much uncertainty, that you don’t belive anything. Not even truth.

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Post by andi999 »

jacquesm wrote: post #24
daenz wrote: post #2

This may very well be true, but I'm having trouble believing anything, from anyone, about the conflict. There is so much propaganda around the subject, that unless you are personally connected to an official source, I believe you can't know with any reasonable certainty. The primary source for this story appears to be public Google Trends data.

Except that there is plenty of evidence that this is really the case. Russians are crossing the border in unprecedented numbers, for instance: https://yle.fi/news/3-12345301 Flying is getting harder and harder so while the borders are still open (there is talk of martial law in Russia, which, even though it was just denied does not seem to have much effect on calming things down, in fact the denial seems to have the…

I thought you need a schengen visa to enter finland, and there would not have been time to get one from the time the war started. I would like to hear more details on this news.

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Post by CyberRabbi »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #18
daenz wrote: post #2

This may very well be true, but I'm having trouble believing anything, from anyone, about the conflict. There is so much propaganda around the subject, that unless you are personally connected to an official source, I believe you can't know with any reasonable certainty. The primary source for this story appears to be public Google Trends data.

Go on Twitter, Telegram, YouTube, anywhere. You'll see plenty of primary videos and accounts corroborating this. You're right, 1 source alone isn't reliable. But there's a massive body of evidence out there, this whole war has been televised. And the Ukrainian narrative has way more evidence than the Russian one...

Those are all primarily western platforms. Even if they did show what you are claiming, it wouldn’t prove your point. RT is blocked on Telegram and YouTube for instance.

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Post by formvoltron »

therusskiy wrote: post #6

I managed to escape the country yesterday, had to flight to Egypt of all places, because ALL (even business) tickets were sold out. The recent news is that starting March 6 all international flights are suspended, the trap has closed. The disheartening thing is that even if you never supported Putin, other countries treat you as enemy. I am at Georgia now and banks refuse to open bank accounts to Russians, and I need…

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