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Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by sdoering »

dnathi493 wrote: post #5

I left Apple after years of lack of any flexibility on the remote work process. They wouldn't allow transferring to any alternative office for most teams. From what I understood, VPs could protect a small minority of some of their employees if a senior leader made a case to them. Unfortunately, this just seemed to lead to the most politically connected folks going remote and directors friends and favorite hires getti…

Wow. Thanks for the insights.

> work at a fast-paced startup and still work on average 10/hours a week less than at Apple.

I am always floored by statements like this. I work as a principal data analyst and everything above 40 hours/week is overtime. While I have overtime included in my contract I still am able to reduce overtime (it is still being tracked to ensure compliance with local workers protection laws) if the project situation allows. On average I do something like 41 hours a week over the last few years. Including high profile client engagement or pitch situations.

I find myself having enough time to also work on my side business and do work for animal protection charities. While still being able to work in the garden and shop to relax.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by throwaway743 »

nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

Who knows if the next variant will be milder (common talking point about how viruses evolve to be more contagious/less deadly) or worst (the unknown and media fear mongering... not to mean theyre equivalent), but if the trend points to anything it's that things peak twice a year. Around January/February and August/September. Not to mention, America is in an election year and the economy is tetering, so everything is about optics and giving people some feeling of autonomy over their lives at the very least :/

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by draw_down »

BrianOnHN wrote: post #20

Love that all the companies (see also Google, Twitter) are utilizing the WW3-panic to sweep these announcements under the rug. How thoughtful! And props to Apple for adding that Friday PR synergy to the mix! Edit: my best attempt at a good faith argument here is this: it was a move that was supposed to be in sync with Biden's SOFU comments on returning to the office, but other breaking news affected the plan.

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Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by jb1991 »

gtirloni wrote: post #24
nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

> More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years That's surprising. Do you have a source?

That stat has been widely reported, in the U.S. at least. There are more deaths from Covid occurring currently in the U.S. on an average daily basis that at any prior time in the pandemic.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/24/health/covid-deaths-now-y...

NY Times, Washington Post, and other media have similar stories.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

hn_version_0023 wrote: post #40
nostromo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://i.imgur.com/aO5zJwL.png

Is a random image on imgur really a source ? Really?

It's from https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by sam0x17 »

8bitben wrote: post #4

Hard to see it going any other way given the massive real estate investments they have made.

Yes, they need to prove that commercial real estate still holds any value at all, though I'm not convinced seeing this incredible shift towards remote economy. I think they just burned a bunch of money to be honest. Maybe in 15 years we will see the Apple campus converted to high quality free public housing, which would be a good outcome for all and certainly would create more value for society than it does now.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by BrianOnHN »

n42 wrote: post #39
BrianOnHN wrote: post #20

Love that all the companies (see also Google, Twitter) are utilizing the WW3-panic to sweep these announcements under the rug. How thoughtful! And props to Apple for adding that Friday PR synergy to the mix! Edit: my best attempt at a good faith argument here is this: it was a move that was supposed to be in sync with Biden's SOFU comments on returning to the office, but other breaking news affected the plan.

are you suggesting they wait for the conflict in Ukraine to resolve before making announcements? your comment sounds paranoid.

What a straw man. And thanks for the mental eval!

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by nradov »

nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

Why not now? We have to return to normalcy eventually so what do we gain by waiting? Everyone is going to be exposed to the virus occasionally so whether that happens in an office or somewhere else hardly matters.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by basisword »

katabatic wrote: post #31
basisword wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. You can’t just exclude the data that disproves your point. The peaks were the original variant, Alpha(?), Delta and now Omicron. Deaths in this wave are extremely lower than in any other wave due to severity, immunity and vaccinations. Hospital stays are reduced and shorter. The original point of av…

Deaths are currently at around 2,000 PER DAY in the United States. That is not in any way, shape, or form "extremely lower" than earlier waves. The Omicron wave was equal to the initial wave in severity, and we're still not out of it.

Interesting. Deaths in the US are still a lot higher than I realised. I was basing my thoughts on UK data which I’m more familiar with and I thought would be relatively similar to the US but surprisingly not.
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