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Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by katabatic »

basisword wrote: post #22
nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

>> More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. You can’t just exclude the data that disproves your point. The peaks were the original variant, Alpha(?), Delta and now Omicron. Deaths in this wave are extremely lower than in any other wave due to severity, immunity and vaccinations. Hospital stays are reduced and shorter. The original point of av…

Deaths are currently at around 2,000 PER DAY in the United States. That is not in any way, shape, or form "extremely lower" than earlier waves. The Omicron wave was equal to the initial wave in severity, and we're still not out of it.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by danceparty »

From the article, in office is 3 days per week -

> We will then begin the hybrid pilot in full on May 23, with people coming to the office three days a week — on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday — and working flexibly on Wednesday and Friday if you wish.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by xienze »

michaelt wrote: post #11
ecf wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not HR, but their finance teams got together and decided what needed to be done to protect their real estate investments.

An office doesn't cost less just because there are people using it.

No, but it certainly means they're getting at least some use out of the money they're spending versus what is effectively just lighting money on fire.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by gdulli »

nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

Deaths and cases are both dropping sharply, and since deaths lag cases, the deaths should be expected to continue to drop steadily for a few more weeks.

Something substantial has definitely changed. That's not the same as knowing there won't be future variants or spikes. But if there's ever a time to get back to normal, now would be it. It's not total victory and may never be, but at some point we either declare that we can live with this while having normal lives, or we're tacitly declaring that we never intend to.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by bombcar »

hackerbob wrote: post #3

Do they share HR offices too! https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/02/google-tells-employees-to-re...

There's no need to collude when you can just notice how the wind is flowing; expect a flood of these announcements over the next weeks.

Apple didn't just decide to do it because Google did, they'd already decided it was coming, and perhaps moved up the announcement now that someone (Putin? Google?) took the news cycle.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by WithinReason »

nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

> More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves.

There is a huge difference between "dying with COVID" and "dying from COVID".

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by kemayo »

nostromo wrote: post #16

More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years, minus 4 peaks of various waves. I'm happy we're returning to normalcy, but it just makes me wonder "why now?" It's like the government and big business just decided overnight to declare "mission accomplished" when nothing substantial has changed. Last summer, for example, could have been the reopening, and we'd have better data and "…

My understanding (which could be wrong!) is that the current absolute death amounts are high, but the actual rate of deaths per-infection is low. This is because the trend in variants has (so far) been towards more-infectious but less-fatal, along with improved knowledge of treatments... so we have a vast number of people infected but they're mostly-surviving.

Said deaths are also extremely focused in unvaccinated people, meaning that outside of the immunocompromised (whose situation sucks here), it's at least mostly people who chose the risk.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by n42 »

BrianOnHN wrote: post #20

Love that all the companies (see also Google, Twitter) are utilizing the WW3-panic to sweep these announcements under the rug. How thoughtful! And props to Apple for adding that Friday PR synergy to the mix! Edit: my best attempt at a good faith argument here is this: it was a move that was supposed to be in sync with Biden's SOFU comments on returning to the office, but other breaking news affected the plan.

are you suggesting they wait for the conflict in Ukraine to resolve before making announcements? your comment sounds paranoid.

Re: Tim Cook tells employees the return to offices will begin on April 11th

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Post by hn_version_0023 »

nostromo wrote: post #26
gtirloni wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> More people are dying with Covid now than were dying most of the previous two years That's surprising. Do you have a source?

https://i.imgur.com/aO5zJwL.png

Is a random image on imgur really a source? Really?
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