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World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by unmole »

efdee wrote: post #107
unmole wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying it happened as a result of the Russian invasion is accurate, saying it happened because of Russian airstrikes is not.

If you agree it is a result of the Russian invasion, you can't say it's not a result of Russian airstrikes. Maybe not a direct result in the sense that a Russian rocket destroyed it (although there's no reason to rule that out at this point), but definitely as an indirect result. No invasion, no destroyed An-225. No Russian airstrike, no destroyed An-225.

> If you agree it is a result of the Russian invasion, you can't say it's not a result of Russian airstrikes.

Airstrike has a specific meaning. From what I understand Russian attack on the airport was primarily an assault by airborne infantry. It's entirely possible that the Antonov was destroyed by a Russian munition. It still doesn't mean it was a result of a Russian airstrike.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by unmole »

Aeolun wrote: post #85
unmole wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying it happened as a result of the Russian invasion is accurate, saying it happened because of Russian airstrikes is not.

Assuming it was destroyed by Ukrainian artillery, which is very much still in question.

It could have been destroyed by Russian infantry for all we know. But that's still not a Russian airstrike.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by skjoldr »

UltraViolence wrote: post #102
illwrks wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read the article: "Last flight on February 5, 2022" "As it was under maintenance, it was thus not able to leave Ukraine before the Russian invasion"

Maintenance does not preclude relocating an airplane. It wasn't taken apart to such an extend that it couldn't fly or it could've been made to fly if need be.

You know nothing about the extent to which it was or was not taken apart or whether it was cleared to fly. Stop.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by mrcheesebreeze »

supreme_berry wrote: post #92
verisimi wrote: post #89

I was confused about this. I presumed Antonov Airlines was a Russian airline, so I was wondering why the Russians would destroy their own planes. But Antonov Airlines is a Ukrainian company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_Airlines The plane was designed in Soviet (Russian) Ukraine (ie before 1991) to carry the Soviet (Russian) space shuttle. edited to say Soviet, not Russian

What is Russian Ukraine? How old are you?

ukraine was pretty much always at least partially owned by russia. One of the first centralized slavic states were the kieven rus.

russia and ukraine are tied and its not offensive or wrong to say something like "russian ukraine"

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by waffleiron »

mlac wrote: post #83

I posted this comment on a less popular thread a few days ago: I had the luck of seeing this plane on approach to IAH airport while driving in Houston. For the first few minutes, it looked like a normal size plane, but felt too low and too slow. Then for the next few minutes, it kept getting bigger and bigger. Then I saw it had 6 engines. And a tail wing that seemed as large as a normal plane’s wingspan. I was lucky…

I was lucky enough to see her in 2020, when she delivered medical supplies from China to Poland. I lived around 3 km from Chopin airport, and seeing the An-225 gave me the same feeling as seeing a 747 for the first time, up close at an airport after having only flown A320's and smaller. I recently (Dec 2021) saw another really cool plane at the same airport, the Airbus Beluga [1].

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Beluga

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by gambiting »

mrcheesebreeze wrote: post #115
supreme_berry wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is Russian Ukraine? How old are you?

ukraine was pretty much always at least partially owned by russia. One of the first centralized slavic states were the kieven rus. russia and ukraine are tied and its not offensive or wrong to say something like "russian ukraine"

If by "pretty much always" you want to completely ignore the period where large part of it used to be Polish, then sure. Pretty much always.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by UltraViolence »

skjoldr wrote: post #113
UltraViolence wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maintenance does not preclude relocating an airplane. It wasn't taken apart to such an extend that it couldn't fly or it could've been made to fly if need be.

You know nothing about the extent to which it was or was not taken apart or whether it was cleared to fly. Stop.

And neither do you!

What I do know that in an emergency a plane can be made to fly pretty quickly, unless it's been completely taken apart.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by UltraViolence »

user-the-name wrote: post #46
UltraViolence wrote: post #24

Quoted post unavailable.

You despise the people defending their country from invasion, but not those who are actually invading? Go take a long look in the mirror, and try to figure out where your humanity has gone.

Of course I despise the Russians for invading, but that doesn't free you from the obligation to plan for the worst.

Now the only An-225 article is gone forever, and we won't ever see another one built. I doubt they even have the engineering drawings to do so. Those were probably also lost during the bombings.

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