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World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by UltraViolence »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #72
UltraViolence wrote: post #24

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lmao you jerk ukraine should have seen it coming? Everyone I heard was ridiculing Biden and liberal media for manufacturing a panic, Russia does these exercises every year etc etc if Ukraine is able to beat back the brutes they will be welcomed into EU and see modernization we havent seen since the Marshall Plan, every bomb Putin drops only gains them more sympathy and admiration

This war has been announced for weeks if not months. There were believers and non-believers, but anyone with half a brain would've left Ukraine if they had the chance.

At the very least they should've taken the precaution to relocate the An-225 until the threat of war blew over.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by UltraViolence »

illwrks wrote: post #33
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Read the article: "Last flight on February 5, 2022" "As it was under maintenance, it was thus not able to leave Ukraine before the Russian invasion"

Maintenance does not preclude relocating an airplane. It wasn't taken apart to such an extend that it couldn't fly or it could've been made to fly if need be.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by blahpro »

Nothing compared to loss of life and suffering of the Ukrainian people of course, but: this is sad.

From the article: "It will cost over USD3 billion to restore the plane [...]".

This seems extremely high. I'd expect maybe high hundreds of millions. I appreciate that they're hardly like-for-like, but the A380 unit cost was something like $400M, which I think has maybe double the tonnage of the An-225. Where does the extra couple of billion come from?

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by my123 »

blahpro wrote: post #104

Nothing compared to loss of life and suffering of the Ukrainian people of course, but: this is sad. From the article: "It will cost over USD3 billion to restore the plane [...]". This seems extremely high. I'd expect maybe high hundreds of millions. I appreciate that they're hardly like-for-like, but the A380 unit cost was something like $400M, which I think has maybe double the tonnage of the An-225. Where does the…

No production lines versus relatively high volume manufacturing.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by leoedin »

blahpro wrote: post #104

Nothing compared to loss of life and suffering of the Ukrainian people of course, but: this is sad. From the article: "It will cost over USD3 billion to restore the plane [...]". This seems extremely high. I'd expect maybe high hundreds of millions. I appreciate that they're hardly like-for-like, but the A380 unit cost was something like $400M, which I think has maybe double the tonnage of the An-225. Where does the…

The A380 is $400m per plane coming off a production line. The total programme cost for the A380 is something like $30bn.

There was only one An-225 built, and it was built 34 years ago. Presumably the tooling and much of the manufacturing knowledge is long gone. Antonov as an aircraft manufacturer was barely a going concern before all this - it's fallen a long way from its Soviet heyday. They haven't built a single aircraft since 2016 - and I can't imagine having a battle fought at your main facility helped things.

Making one of something always costs a lot more than making many.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by efdee »

unmole wrote: post #63
efdee wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the way that you don't die from a bullet, but rather from your body's reaction to the abrupt entering of that bullet in its perimeter.

Saying it happened as a result of the Russian invasion is accurate, saying it happened because of Russian airstrikes is not.

If you agree it is a result of the Russian invasion, you can't say it's not a result of Russian airstrikes. Maybe not a direct result in the sense that a Russian rocket destroyed it (although there's no reason to rule that out at this point), but definitely as an indirect result.

No invasion, no destroyed An-225. No Russian airstrike, no destroyed An-225.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by yardie »

verisimi wrote: post #89

I was confused about this. I presumed Antonov Airlines was a Russian airline, so I was wondering why the Russians would destroy their own planes. But Antonov Airlines is a Ukrainian company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_Airlines The plane was designed in Soviet (Russian) Ukraine (ie before 1991) to carry the Soviet (Russian) space shuttle. edited to say Soviet, not Russian

The Russian space program isn't even in Russia. Baikonur Cosmodrome is in Kazakhstan. So you can see these countries hold a very high strategic value to Russia. The ghosts of the Soviet Union are still haunting us to this day.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by msandford »

mlac wrote: post #83

I posted this comment on a less popular thread a few days ago: I had the luck of seeing this plane on approach to IAH airport while driving in Houston. For the first few minutes, it looked like a normal size plane, but felt too low and too slow. Then for the next few minutes, it kept getting bigger and bigger. Then I saw it had 6 engines. And a tail wing that seemed as large as a normal plane’s wingspan. I was lucky…

I saw it taking off and climbing out of Houston on my way to go sailing with a friend so I was headed to clear lake. It was just all wrong, it was clearly an airplane headed away from me but it didn't move! It just hung in the sky as if suspended by strings. For what seemed like many minutes it just hovered there. Eventually it started a turn and it started to make a little more sense.
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