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World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by bluGill »

OJFord wrote: post #48
lordnacho wrote: post #41

How does type rating work for this one off kind of plane? How do you get hours in the one plane, and is there a simulator? Also what do you do when the plane you're rated for is destroyed?

> Also what do you do when the plane you're rated for is destroyed? Presumably there are numerous other reasons you already wouldn't want it to be the only plane you were flying, so you just fly the others a bit more?

Even in the unlikely event you only were rated for it, you just do a bit of training and get another rating. How much training depends on the target, some need more than others.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by jazzyjackson »

UltraViolence wrote: post #24

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lmao you jerk

ukraine should have seen it coming? Everyone I heard was ridiculing Biden and liberal media for manufacturing a panic, Russia does these exercises every year etc etc

if Ukraine is able to beat back the brutes they will be welcomed into EU and see modernization we havent seen since the Marshall Plan, every bomb Putin drops only gains them more sympathy and admiration

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by rob74 »

btgeekboy wrote: post #25
H8crilA wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are still the Boeing Dreamlifter and the Airbus Beluga.

The AN-225 was in a category of its own. In fact, the Dreamlifter was modified to fit components for the 787, but it actually has a lower max takeoff weight (803k lbs) than the original 747 it came from (875k lbs). Meanwhile, the Beluga XL only has a max takeoff weight of 500k lbs. The AN-225 had a max takeoff weight of 1.4m lbs.

Well yeah, both the Dreamlifter and the Beluga were designed to carry aircraft parts, which are large, but not particularly heavy. Also, they are modified versions of civilian cargo aircraft. Both the AN-124 and the AN-225 are (were) basically military transport aircraft with high wings and short landing gears to allow loading via ramps - so a different kind of beast...

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by chinathrow »

sofixa wrote: post #28
H8crilA wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are still the Boeing Dreamlifter and the Airbus Beluga.

The Belugas and Beluga XLs are only used internally by Airbus. The biggest cargo aircraft Airbus sell are the A330 and A340 cargo versions.

This is not correct. The older Belugas entered chartered service recently.

https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transport/airbus-setting-up...

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by risyachka »

fuoqi wrote: post #27

It's not clear whether it truly was destroyed by Russian airstrikes. The plane was based on the Gostomel airport, which got captured by the Russian airborn forces in the early days of the invasion. The news of destruction begun after the Ukrainian forces tried to retake the airport.

100% of everything destroyed is only ruski fault.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by MaKey »

billfruit wrote: post #68
thematrixturtle wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was also by a fair margin the largest plane actively flying when measured by weight (285T empty, 640T fully loaded), wingspan (88m) or even number of engines (6).

Doesn't the B52, a much smaller aircraft have 8 engines.

Yes, it does. It's not that obvious though as they are grouped in pairs of two.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by p_l »

elevaet wrote: post #8

From wikipedia: > The Antonov An-225 Mriya (Ukrainian: Антонов Ан-225 Мрія, lit. ''dream' or 'inspiration''; NATO reporting name: Cossack) was a strategic airlift cargo aircraft designed in the 1980s by the Antonov Design Bureau in Soviet Ukraine. It was originally developed as an enlargement of the Antonov An-124 to transport Buran-class orbiters, and only one example was ever completed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w…

It wasn't designed for transporting just Buran, but all sorts of rocket parts that exceeded Soviet rail loading gauge, which was limiting factor in transport between Moscow and Kharkiv, where they were built, to Baikonur where final assembly happened.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by teknopaul »

axiosgunnar wrote: post #26
UltraViolence wrote: post #24

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> I despise the Ukrainian government Ridiculous, victim-blaming statement

Its fairly normal to despise governments. As a left leaning European exiled by Brexit, I despise the UK government. Blaming the govt is arguably not blaming the victims. That said, I don't think the Ukrainian govt did anything wrong here myself. Times of war are times when we should try hard to be understanding of people's opinions.

And not call names.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by sofixa »

chinathrow wrote: post #74
sofixa wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Belugas and Beluga XLs are only used internally by Airbus. The biggest cargo aircraft Airbus sell are the A330 and A340 cargo versions.

This is not correct. The older Belugas entered chartered service recently. https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transport/airbus-setting-up...

Oh, didn't know that, thanks! That's a fairly recent development ( dated January of this year), and is only for the old Belugas, not the XLs, which will remain exclusive for Airbus. I don't see why they can't build a few more for charter.

Re: World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes

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Post by p_l »

rob74 wrote: post #73
btgeekboy wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The AN-225 was in a category of its own. In fact, the Dreamlifter was modified to fit components for the 787, but it actually has a lower max takeoff weight (803k lbs) than the original 747 it came from (875k lbs). Meanwhile, the Beluga XL only has a max takeoff weight of 500k lbs. The AN-225 had a max takeoff weight of 1.4m lbs.

Well yeah, both the Dreamlifter and the Beluga were designed to carry aircraft parts, which are large, but not particularly heavy. Also, they are modified versions of civilian cargo aircraft. Both the AN-124 and the AN-225 are (were) basically military transport aircraft with high wings and short landing gears to allow loading via ramps - so a different kind of beast...

Mriya also has internal crane to help in loading and unloading - a legacy of being designed for carrying all sorts of "project cargo" that isn't easy to palletize (it, and M4 bombers modified into VM-T, had to carry rocket parts that were too big to move by rail as Baikonur can't be supplied easily otherwise)
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