Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

Post by kgeist » Fri, Mar 04, 2022, 1:26 PM UTC

throwaway290 wrote: post #115

kgeist wrote: post #114

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>This sounds to have a Russian angle to me (e.g., the word 'vse') Proto-Slavic *vьśi ("all") would yield "vsi", not that far off. Many modern Slavic languages add additional suffixes: wszystcy, všichni, vsichki etc., which are secondary. Serbian comes close but they swapped the first two consonants: svi.

They did not just swap it, did they? Svi (everything) is also related to svit (the world), which is also in Russian as svet. This is why I say Serbian made more sense to me as a native Russian speaker. Likewise Serbian sutra, which in Russian is zavtra, same idea (in the morning, i.e. tomorrow) but with seemingly more unnecessary manipulations (considering morning is still utro in Russian).

Post by tomp » Fri, Mar 04, 2022, 1:28 PM UTC

ajuc wrote: post #2

Why "x" instead of "z" in cz/sz/rz etc. sounds? It's not used by any Slavic languages AFAIK, some use z, some use ^ (and they used z in the past), others use cyrylic but nobody uses x for these. It's weird. Also w for szcz makes no sense. Use r for "ja" while you're at it :)

Post by ajuc » Fri, Mar 04, 2022, 1:31 PM UTC

wheelerof4te wrote: post #87

ajuc wrote: post #68

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The problem with panslavism is that Russians would have majority, and Russian states were almost always authoritharian and oppressive.

We had rather brutal monarchies in the West, too. Colonialism was not altruistic trip around the globe. Almost all former European monarchies, from England to Belgium, were authoritarian imperialistic countries.

Post by throwaway290 » Fri, Mar 04, 2022, 1:31 PM UTC

kgeist wrote: post #118

throwaway290 wrote: post #115

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They did not just swap it, did they? Svi (everything) is also related to svit (the world), which is also in Russian as svet. This is why I say Serbian made more sense to me as a native Russian speaker. Likewise Serbian sutra, which in Russian is zavtra, same idea (in the morning, i.e. tomorrow) but with seemingly more unnecessary manipulations (considering morning is still utro in Russian).

Pretty sure Serbian swapped vs- > sv-, the word is not related to "svit" (it's a folk etymology). Russian vs'ak "everyone" = Serbian svak "everyone"

Post by cesnja » Fri, Mar 04, 2022, 1:36 PM UTC

mongrelion wrote: post #27

msrenee wrote: post #19

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I'm only familiar with Russian, but "es" for "to be" feels weird too. And it's used where Russian would just omit it. Are there Slavic languages that are more liberal with it? And I feel like some form of Cyrillic would be much more natural both because of the available phonemes and because I believe most Slavic speakers would be more familiar with it than the Latin alphabet. As a non-native learner, I've always had…

Even though Russian does drop the "to be" in present tense for all pronouns, other Slavic languages do feature it either as a separate word or together. For example this is how you say "I am Russian" and "You are Russian" in: Slovenian: Jaz sem Rus Ti si Rus Croatian: Ja sam Rus Ti si Rus Slovak: Som Rus Ty si Rus Whereas in Polish is a joint word (but the to be is still merged in there): Jestem z Rosji Jesteś Rosjan…