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Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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As a Slovak / Czech speaker I find Slovio a bit easier to understand than Interslavic, despite the mentioned non-slavic choices.

Interslavic seems to be south-slavic biased.

Purely subjectively, Slovio text reads more aesthetically pleasing. I think this might be because the south-slavic roots are more prominent in our east dialects spoken in the country side, while Slovio seems closer to me to the standard codified language.

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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Interslavic seems just as understandable to me. Sometimes I wish all slavic people had one country, one language. Let's call it Slavia.

There is such an idea of a greater connection between Slavic nations called Pan-Slavism ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Slavism ). When it comes to "one country" - the USSR aimed at that, and from the perspective of hundreds of millions of people, it wasn't the best idea. Plus, I think that ethnic states are one of the worst inventions of the 19th century, which accelerated a lot after WWI & WWII. I prefer cities…

USSR was a blasphemy because of it's communist nature. It was an abomination born in blood.

Slavs were never for communism.

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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> do Tihju Okean

Every day is a school day. As a middling Czech speaker I wondered WTF this was until I did a bit of googling to find out I didn't know the name of the world's largest ocean in Czech :D I was thinking "what on earth is the 'quiet ocean'?" ("tichý" = "quiet")

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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We had Yugoslavia, for southern Slavic people. Didn’t work out.

It did not work out because the binding ideology wasn't pan-slavism, but rather bad mix of communism and socialism. Also, instead of returning to our root slavic religion, we got atheism. Without any form of religion, people can not feel that deep bond. Especially Slavic people, who are naturaly very religious. Yugoslavia was a mistake, but not for reasons you might think.

I'm pretty sure that "returning to the root Slavic religion" would involve offering massive cow sacrifices to the thunder god Perun in exchange for long life and prosperity. Not sure if that's what you had in mind, though!

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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post #83

> do Tihju Okean Every day is a school day. As a middling Czech speaker I wondered WTF this was until I did a bit of googling to find out I didn't know the name of the world's largest ocean in Czech :D I was thinking "what on earth is the 'quiet ocean'?" ("tichý" = "quiet")

We are not used to reading 'h' as 'ch' and 'c' as 'k'.

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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post #66

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There is such an idea of a greater connection between Slavic nations called Pan-Slavism ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Slavism ). When it comes to "one country" - the USSR aimed at that, and from the perspective of hundreds of millions of people, it wasn't the best idea. Plus, I think that ethnic states are one of the worst inventions of the 19th century, which accelerated a lot after WWI & WWII. I prefer cities…

The problem with panslavism is that Russians would have majority, and Russian states were almost always authoritharian and oppressive.

We had rather brutal monarchies in the West, too. Colonialism was not altruistic trip around the globe.

Almost all former European monarchies, from England to Belgium, were authoritarian imperialistic countries.

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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Slovio uses -s suffix for plural which is completely weird in any slavic language, -i would be much more natural (ulcas, domis, glovis vs ulci, domi, glovi) and that is what another panslavic language interslavic/Medžuslovjansky uses (ulici, domi, glavi): http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/

I'm only familiar with Russian, but "es" for "to be" feels weird too. And it's used where Russian would just omit it. Are there Slavic languages that are more liberal with it? And I feel like some form of Cyrillic would be much more natural both because of the available phonemes and because I believe most Slavic speakers would be more familiar with it than the Latin alphabet. As a non-native learner, I've always had…

Russian just is not a great example of a Slavic language. It is a Slavic language in general yet way too different from the rest of them for a number of reasons.

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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As a Slovak / Czech speaker I find Slovio a bit easier to understand than Interslavic, despite the mentioned non-slavic choices. Interslavic seems to be south-slavic biased. Purely subjectively, Slovio text reads more aesthetically pleasing. I think this might be because the south-slavic roots are more prominent in our east dialects spoken in the country side, while Slovio seems closer to me to the standard codified…

Seconded.

I'm a native English speaker in the Czech Republic. I've been struggling to learn Czech for 8 years now. It is my 6th language, not that I'm very fluent in any of the others, but by far the hardest.

I find Slovio much easier to read and understand than Interslavic, which with my A2-to-B1 level Czech remains quite impenetrable.

I've travelled around 5 or 6 Slavic-speaking countries now and often show people Slovio, and though they've never heard of it, they all find that they can read and understand it without problem. I find that an interesting data point.

Re: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It did not work out because the binding ideology wasn't pan-slavism, but rather bad mix of communism and socialism. Also, instead of returning to our root slavic religion, we got atheism. Without any form of religion, people can not feel that deep bond. Especially Slavic people, who are naturaly very religious. Yugoslavia was a mistake, but not for reasons you might think.

I'm pretty sure that "returning to the root Slavic religion" would involve offering massive cow sacrifices to the thunder god Perun in exchange for long life and prosperity. Not sure if that's what you had in mind, though!

Many of us offer sacrifices today, too.

In most Slavic countries, it is customary to slay and eat a pig on certain holidays, like Christmas and our Slava.

In the US you kill turkeys for Thanksgiving. How different is that compared to other "sacrifices"?

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