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I think most people would consider it destroyed by Russia, even if it were Ukrainian artillery that actually struck.
Sure, but saying destroyed by Russian airstrikes like the article would be inaccurate.
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Looks destroyed to me: https://img.pr0gramm.com/2022/03/04/1d4413a6ea3e5d8a.jpg Edit: I misread your comment...
What? Where did I say that it was not destroyed? My point is that it's quite possible that it was destroyed by Ukrainian artillery strikes which supported counter-attack on the Gostomel airport.
I am sure there wouldn't have been a nice for any kind of Ukrainian weaponry, let alone artillery strikes if Russia didn't forcefully capture said airfield in the first place.
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Sure, but saying destroyed by Russian airstrikes like the article would be inaccurate.
In the way that you don't die from a bullet, but rather from your body's reaction to the abrupt entering of that bullet in its perimeter.
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#64It's not clear whether it truly was destroyed by Russian airstrikes. The plane was based on the Gostomel airport, which got captured by the Russian airborn forces in the early days of the invasion. The news of destruction begun after the Ukrainian forces tried to retake the airport.
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That is North direction. Right toward the Russian forces which at the time had made that huge advance through Chernobyl toward Kiev. The trace in the pavement points to a large and fast shell or missile. Ukrainians are using up to 203mm which looks too small for that trace in the pavement. Also making that long trace in concrete pavement suggests low angle which for artillery would mean relatively close position - bringing large caliber like 203mm that close is usually not done, as well as you don't bring such your strategic artillery assets into position where enemy's tanks would be rushing right into your back. Such low angle is indicative of missile, cruise (not ballistic) or air launched. Cruise missile like Russian Kaliber would make bigger bang, so most probably it was an aircraft launched air-to-ground missile.
Edit: downvoting without clear technical counter-arguments - i take it such people just don't like where the technical analysis leads to while not able to provide their own technical analysis :)
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#65Here's a photo of it: https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/t6d2eh/closer_pho...
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It was also by a fair margin the largest plane actively flying when measured by weight (285T empty, 640T fully loaded), wingspan (88m) or even number of engines (6).
At GTW of 640T it could support up to 260T of multi-item cargo or 190T single item payloads, truly in a class of it's own. Even Boeing and Airbus internal transports pale in comparison. RIP beautiful bird.
Comparing the Mrija to heavy military airlifters (Ruslan, Galaxy, Globemaster III...) would make more sense.
The impressive thing about the Mrija is that it's both good at lifting volume (over-wing transport) and weight.
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#68From wikipedia: > The Antonov An-225 Mriya (Ukrainian: Антонов Ан-225 Мрія, lit. ''dream' or 'inspiration''; NATO reporting name: Cossack) was a strategic airlift cargo aircraft designed in the 1980s by the Antonov Design Bureau in Soviet Ukraine. It was originally developed as an enlargement of the Antonov An-124 to transport Buran-class orbiters, and only one example was ever completed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w…
It was also by a fair margin the largest plane actively flying when measured by weight (285T empty, 640T fully loaded), wingspan (88m) or even number of engines (6).
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#70It feels strange that amongst all the destruction and loss of life that I should feel upset that this big plane got destroyed but here we are.
It was / is always there yet people still having fun and care about all kinds of things. This is how we were "designed".