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World's only An-225 destroyed by Russian airstrikes
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They could have done the airstrike before they captured the airport
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#53How does type rating work for this one off kind of plane? How do you get hours in the one plane, and is there a simulator? Also what do you do when the plane you're rated for is destroyed?
There is a sim; https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Antonov_An-225_fli...
Not sure if all of the cockpit is in that sim; there are 6 seats!
I expect the pilots all started out flying other types, so will go back to doing that.
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#54It feels strange that amongst all the destruction and loss of life that I should feel upset that this big plane got destroyed but here we are.
symbols are important.
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The only truth here is that Russia invaded Ukraine, and without the invasion this destruction would not have taken place. Russia brought the war, and now are acting as "well it's your fault for resisting, why can't you just bend over and take it". This is the incovenient truth. dang, can we please ban in this account that spews propaganda ?
The "Why did you make me hit you" defense.
edit: to be clear, I'm referring to the grandparent post.
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#56From wikipedia: > The Antonov An-225 Mriya (Ukrainian: Антонов Ан-225 Мрія, lit. ''dream' or 'inspiration''; NATO reporting name: Cossack) was a strategic airlift cargo aircraft designed in the 1980s by the Antonov Design Bureau in Soviet Ukraine. It was originally developed as an enlargement of the Antonov An-124 to transport Buran-class orbiters, and only one example was ever completed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w…
It was also by a fair margin the largest plane actively flying when measured by weight (285T empty, 640T fully loaded), wingspan (88m) or even number of engines (6).
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There are still the Boeing Dreamlifter and the Airbus Beluga.
The AN-225 was in a category of its own. In fact, the Dreamlifter was modified to fit components for the 787, but it actually has a lower max takeoff weight (803k lbs) than the original 747 it came from (875k lbs). Meanwhile, the Beluga XL only has a max takeoff weight of 500k lbs. The AN-225 had a max takeoff weight of 1.4m lbs.
wow 747 doesn't mess around huh, just a naive lb/engine would bring 747 up to 1.3m lbs (4 on 747 and 6 on AN-225)
very cool
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#58From wikipedia: > The Antonov An-225 Mriya (Ukrainian: Антонов Ан-225 Мрія, lit. ''dream' or 'inspiration''; NATO reporting name: Cossack) was a strategic airlift cargo aircraft designed in the 1980s by the Antonov Design Bureau in Soviet Ukraine. It was originally developed as an enlargement of the Antonov An-124 to transport Buran-class orbiters, and only one example was ever completed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w…
It was also by a fair margin the largest plane actively flying when measured by weight (285T empty, 640T fully loaded), wingspan (88m) or even number of engines (6).
At GTW of 640T it could support up to 260T of multi-item cargo or 190T single item payloads, truly in a class of it's own. Even Boeing and Airbus internal transports pale in comparison.
RIP beautiful bird.
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#59It feels strange that amongst all the destruction and loss of life that I should feel upset that this big plane got destroyed but here we are.
There are a lot of reasons to be upset despite the fact it's an inanimate object.
It was one of a kind.
During the last few years it's been primarily chartered for humanitarian aid missions, largely in support of the response to Covid-19 delivering PPE, medication and equipment.
Not to mention it being a national symbol and point of pride of the Ukrainian people.
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What? Where did I say that it was not destroyed? My point is that it's quite possible that it was destroyed by Ukrainian artillery strikes which supported counter-attack on the Gostomel airport.
I think most people would consider it destroyed by Russia, even if it were Ukrainian artillery that actually struck.
The formal cause of the destruction is the Russian invasion, the efficient cause might be Ukrainian artillery, or it might be Russian airstrikes, as the article indicates.
It's a useful distinction, and I wager most people would consider the efficient cause to be the appropriate cause in a sentence like "object destroyed by causal subject".
Otherwise we end up with difficulty parsing "Russian MiG destroyed by Russia", are we saying it's all Russia's fault, or that Russian forces shot their own jet?