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Treatment for Tinnitus with Stimulation of Auditory and Non-Auditory Nerves

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Re: Treatment for Tinnitus with Stimulation of Auditory and Non-Auditory Nerves

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Tinnitus is usually only described as a high-pitched ringing, but I think it gets far worse when it's on the lower end of the frequency spectrum. It's much more noticeable and can make discerning speech very difficult at times. But while the higher frequencies can be somewhat easily tuned out using white noise (like a fan), the lower frequencies are just always there, even when you're listening to music -- there is a…

> Use them even when you think it makes you look dorky at the club or concert or sporting event. Yeah, but that's the problem, just like the Western world attitude to masks and COVID. With COVID, all those Western big babies referring to masks as muzzles, nappies etc. and shouting about "muh freedom". All this despite indisputable objective scientific evidence to the contrary that masks work, let alone all the subjec…

Not sure I follow: OH&S rules often require adequate hearing protection be warn in employment, and everyone basically follows those rules without complaint (edit: perhaps I should state 'relatively little complaint', compared to protests about masks).

If you have to wear earplugs or whatever at a venue, the problem is that it's too loud.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine this, you're laying in bed at night, it's quiet outside just as it should be when sleeping, except for the constant ringing of your tinnitus. You roll over, maybe you cover your ears or put a pillow over them, but the ringing sound doesn't change. In fact you realise nothing you do has any effect on the ringing sound - it's coming from within your head/ears, how do you block out a sound which is emanating fro…

That sounds really rough, I used to listen to my music very loudly when I was young and getting tinnitus is one of my fears as I get older. How did you get tinnitus? Is the loud music thing a myth? Is yours at least not getting progressively worse?

I concur with the experiences of GP. It is torture. I got mine because of being stupid around power tools more than 10 years ago, for the first 5 years it was merely an annoyance that would often drown out in the background. Lately it has progressed to insufferable nuisance. It contributes significantly to my insomnia, which is also a gateway to major depression.

Re: Treatment for Tinnitus with Stimulation of Auditory and Non-Auditory Nerves

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post #15

Tinnitus is usually only described as a high-pitched ringing, but I think it gets far worse when it's on the lower end of the frequency spectrum. It's much more noticeable and can make discerning speech very difficult at times. But while the higher frequencies can be somewhat easily tuned out using white noise (like a fan), the lower frequencies are just always there, even when you're listening to music -- there is a…

> Use them even when you think it makes you look dorky at the club or concert or sporting event. Yeah, but that's the problem, just like the Western world attitude to masks and COVID. With COVID, all those Western big babies referring to masks as muzzles, nappies etc. and shouting about "muh freedom". All this despite indisputable objective scientific evidence to the contrary that masks work, let alone all the subjec…

Yes, it really needs to be that loud.

Above a threshold (about 90-100 decibels (dba or dbc - can't recall)) the vestibular system in the inner ear (the balancy bit) is stimulated, which ?induces dancing? and ?feels good? ...

https://sci-hub.se/https://asa.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1121...

Re: Treatment for Tinnitus with Stimulation of Auditory and Non-Auditory Nerves

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post #15

Tinnitus is usually only described as a high-pitched ringing, but I think it gets far worse when it's on the lower end of the frequency spectrum. It's much more noticeable and can make discerning speech very difficult at times. But while the higher frequencies can be somewhat easily tuned out using white noise (like a fan), the lower frequencies are just always there, even when you're listening to music -- there is a…

Oh I have tinnitus. Noise cancelling headphones make my head hurt as it feels like it amplifies the ringing.

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I am currently participating in a study using tEAS (transcranial electrical and auditory stimulation) for tinnitus. Can‘t say much about if it works or not especially as the study was redesigned and will contain less treatment, so I‘m not too optimistic. (Background: 10y tinnitus without any known cause, was coping very will for the last 8y, had a terrible last 2y but I am starting to get over it again so in general…

Typical laptops are not grounded. You might want to try a desktop (but also check that the wall plugs are properly grounded). But I agree that for an expensive medical device, shocking its users is unacceptable.

I‘m only a participant, not one of the organizers but even then, the laptop was provided with the device by the company to be used together, I would assume that simply for support and data integrity reasons they are not interested in using a different PC.

Re: Treatment for Tinnitus with Stimulation of Auditory and Non-Auditory Nerves

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As a reminder,Japaneses in the 90s are the only one to have found effective treatments for Tinnitus, however like most research from non-occidental countries, it has been universally ignored and suffering persist. https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jibirin1925/82/1/82_1_1...

Re: Treatment for Tinnitus with Stimulation of Auditory and Non-Auditory Nerves

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I have tinnitus from heart meds. I've found tapping the back of my skull with both index fingers 20-40 times reduces it considerably. Not sure if it's placebo or not, but it does the trick for me.

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jibirin1925/82/1/82_1_1...

Re: Treatment for Tinnitus with Stimulation of Auditory and Non-Auditory Nerves

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post #15

Tinnitus is usually only described as a high-pitched ringing, but I think it gets far worse when it's on the lower end of the frequency spectrum. It's much more noticeable and can make discerning speech very difficult at times. But while the higher frequencies can be somewhat easily tuned out using white noise (like a fan), the lower frequencies are just always there, even when you're listening to music -- there is a…

Oh I have tinnitus. Noise cancelling headphones make my head hurt as it feels like it amplifies the ringing.

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jibirin1925/82/1/82_1_1...

Re: Treatment for Tinnitus with Stimulation of Auditory and Non-Auditory Nerves

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Not sure why I click into comment threads on HN about tinnitus, hoping for positive news or anecdotes, but it’s almost always the opposite. So I’ll share my positive anecdote. I’ve dealt with it for over 10 years, and while I can’t imagine how happy I would be to find an effective treatment, I’ve learned to cope, and do what I can to protect hearing going forward. And once you realize you can cope with it, it makes f…

+1. Got tinnitus due to injury to auditory nerve. Those who are just starting with overcoming Tinnitus - Make sure to give time. Human brain is amazing at latent inhibition, ie capability to ignore things that it learns to be irrelevant. That is your largest medicine. In my country, there are sugar cane refineries/factories that emit very pungent small that is very strong and spans across miles in radius. People who…

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jibirin1925/82/1/82_1_1...
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