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Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by Mindwipe »

feanaro wrote: post #157
hyperman1 wrote: post #147

I wonder how professional these criminals are. A crime syndicate would silently ask for money. This seems either a false flag operation for a group wanting something else, or much more likely a kid playing around and finding an unlocked door. That last case, a kid pissing of a powerfull entity with a crime, generally does not end well for the kid. I don't see NVidia publicly giving in and loosing face, so there seems…

So you think nVidia will want to see the release of all of its chip schematics? That's an interesting position, but I fail to see how that would be a good idea for them. Perhaps if they are hoping the hackers will be apprehended before Friday.

They won't want to, but I suspect they would prefer it to the actions demanded by the ransom.

Nobody legitimate can do anything with the released information if the hackers leak it. It's a huge patent red flag. They could with the drivers open sourced.

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Post by tobyhinloopen »

mrtksn wrote: post #73
modeless wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No single piece of software has wasted more of my time than Nvidia's drivers, mostly (though not exclusively) on Linux. They've rendered my OS unbootable so many times over the years. So many times I've spent whole days of my life troubleshooting, upgrading, downgrading, configuring, rebooting. Then often reinstalling the OS after their installers mess stuff up in ways that are impossible to even know until they pop…

Oh, tell me about it. +Installs Linux, this time determined to make it daily driver. Why is this so slow though? - You need to install Nvidia drivers + Oh, OK makes sense. -- INSTALLS NVIDIA DRIVERS -- -- LINUX NO LONGER BOOTS, OBSCURE ERROR MESSAGE, FURIOUSLY GOOGLING ON A TINY PHONE SCREEN TRYING TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE -- Later made myself a Hackintosh, eventually bought an actual Mac. The Hackintosh stuff was much,…

I’m using Windows with WSL these days. Works great

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Post by qayxc »

peferron wrote: post #195
rvz wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's sad to hear that graphics drivers are still not a solved problem on Linux. Indeed and still nothing has changed. Last time I checked, installing a Nvidia driver crashed the whole desktop and every-time you boot you Linux distro, it gives you a black screen with X11 or Wayland pop ups. A magnificent waste of time that was fixing things in order to do basic work. I ended up using Windows with WSL2 and waiting fo…

That's weird. I've been using an Ubuntu desktop with a GTX 1080 daily for years now, across multiple major OS versions and driver versions, with zero GPU-related issues.

Desktop is OK for the most part, hybrid graphics on Laptop can still be a living nightmare, though.

Every other driver update breaks the system in unexpected ways, Wayland wasn't supported for the longest time, switching GPUs had no support at all for quite a while and still is a bad joke compared to Windows (e.g. you have to log out and log in again to switch the graphics processor unless you use 3rd party tools).

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by tobyhinloopen »

nojs wrote: post #8

> Nvidia introduced LHR in February 2021 with the launch of its GeForce RTX 3060 models. Three months later, the company brought LHR to its GeForce RTX 3080, 3070, and 3060 Ti graphics cards. The reason: to make the cards less desirable to people mining Ethereum and possibly other types of cryptocurrencies. What a bizarre move. Why would they do this?

To make the cards less desirable to people mining Ethereum and possibly other types of cryptocurrencies.

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by rawoke083600 »

codedokode wrote: post #112

I don't understand why gamers should have any priority over miners and programmers in access to video cards. Mining or computing is a serious business. Gaming is just a way to kill time and kids would get much more benefit if they read books or did sports instead. Also, gamers don't need top video cards, 1 or 2Gb cards are fine for most games. Therefore, all restrictions on hash rate should be removed.

I really hope you are joking ?

You know the gaming industry is larger than the MOVIE + MUSIC industry combined right ?

> 1 or 2Gb cards are fine for most games

Erm whot now ?

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Post by lmm »

chmod775 wrote: post #5

> So, NVIDIA, the choice is yours! Either: Officially make current and all future drivers for all cards open source, while keeping the Verilog and chipset trade secrets... well, secret OR Not make the drivers open source, making us release the entire silicon chip files so that everyone not only knows your driver's secrets, but also your most closely-guarded trade secrets for graphics and computer chipsets too! Intere…

The binary driver made me a big NVidia fan FWIW. It works, consistently and easily, on both Linux and FreeBSD. The unified release makes both of those feel like a first-class citizen alongside Windows. It's always been more reliable than the ATI/AMD drivers, even when the latter are notionally open-source. (I will say that Intel video drivers have also always been good).

Sure, it'd be nice for it to be open-source too, but frankly if the software is good enough that I never want to fix bugs in it then it's a lot less important whether it's open-source.

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Post by er888kh »

codedokode wrote: post #112

I don't understand why gamers should have any priority over miners and programmers in access to video cards. Mining or computing is a serious business. Gaming is just a way to kill time and kids would get much more benefit if they read books or did sports instead. Also, gamers don't need top video cards, 1 or 2Gb cards are fine for most games. Therefore, all restrictions on hash rate should be removed.

Gymnastics doesn't seem to be useful either. Maybe we should stop people from doing that: They almost certainly injure themselves, and even if they don't, who benefits from someone doing a 180 split?

I don't like baseball either. The game sucks. It doesn't help with productivity either. Students should be discouraged from playing that too.

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Post by charcircuit »

eganist wrote: post #120
codedokode wrote: post #112

I don't understand why gamers should have any priority over miners and programmers in access to video cards. Mining or computing is a serious business. Gaming is just a way to kill time and kids would get much more benefit if they read books or did sports instead. Also, gamers don't need top video cards, 1 or 2Gb cards are fine for most games. Therefore, all restrictions on hash rate should be removed.

If you're mining, buy ASICs that do the job. That way the capacity is available for people who want to game casually, game professionally, render, or compute.

Requiring an ASIC to mine centralizes mining. Everyone should be able to contribute to the consensus process which is why GPU mining exists. There is a large number of people who already have comupters with graphics cards in them.

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Post by catfishx »

ActorNightly wrote: post #63
modeless wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No single piece of software has wasted more of my time than Nvidia's drivers, mostly (though not exclusively) on Linux. They've rendered my OS unbootable so many times over the years. So many times I've spent whole days of my life troubleshooting, upgrading, downgrading, configuring, rebooting. Then often reinstalling the OS after their installers mess stuff up in ways that are impossible to even know until they pop…

A better solution would be for AMD to invest in bringing their ML stacks up to date to work with PyTorch and such.

Yes, it would also nice if they would implement stuff like CUDA (if thats not illegal) or provide alternatives, which is also used by many ML programs and forces you to buy a Nvidia card
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