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Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by heavyset_go »

pjerem wrote: post #115
mrtksn wrote: post #73

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Oh, tell me about it. +Installs Linux, this time determined to make it daily driver. Why is this so slow though? - You need to install Nvidia drivers + Oh, OK makes sense. -- INSTALLS NVIDIA DRIVERS -- -- LINUX NO LONGER BOOTS, OBSCURE ERROR MESSAGE, FURIOUSLY GOOGLING ON A TINY PHONE SCREEN TRYING TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE -- Later made myself a Hackintosh, eventually bought an actual Mac. The Hackintosh stuff was much,…

Interesting. I’ve not used Linux as my mainly driver for years. I miss it and I want to come back but I basically don’t have any decent PC anymore so I have the freedom to get/build one. When I used it, ironically, NVidia was the way to go on Linux and ATI/AMD was a shit show. Is AMD ok nowadays ? My needs are mostly confortable casual gaming where I don’t care having more than 60fps and I don’t play online (so this…

Yes, AMD is fine. Intel works well if you get a computer with an iGPU, but the last time I looked, AMD's iGPUs were a bit more powerful. You'll want a Nvidia card for ML, unfortunately.

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by cbozeman »

randomhodler84 wrote: post #81
baby wrote: post #60

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Cryptocurrencies are pretty green besides bitcoin and ethereum

Also worthless, because they just keep printing them and giving them away to VCs, who then sucker engineers into building em a product/ecosystem. You will see it eventually David!

> Also worthless, because they just keep printing them and giving them away to VCs

You literally just described what's happened with fiat currencies in the past decade.

Endless printing of money and giving it away to big banks.

I guess you'll see it eventually randomhodler84.

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by ThatMedicIsASpy »

modeless wrote: post #18
chmod775 wrote: post #5

> So, NVIDIA, the choice is yours! Either: Officially make current and all future drivers for all cards open source, while keeping the Verilog and chipset trade secrets... well, secret OR Not make the drivers open source, making us release the entire silicon chip files so that everyone not only knows your driver's secrets, but also your most closely-guarded trade secrets for graphics and computer chipsets too! Intere…

No single piece of software has wasted more of my time than Nvidia's drivers, mostly (though not exclusively) on Linux. They've rendered my OS unbootable so many times over the years. So many times I've spent whole days of my life troubleshooting, upgrading, downgrading, configuring, rebooting. Then often reinstalling the OS after their installers mess stuff up in ways that are impossible to even know until they pop…

I recently tried wayland with fedora 35. The driver destroyed the system. I switched back from pop os lts to the latest pop os and the performance was even better (compared to lts).

GTX 1080

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by peferron »

rvz wrote: post #176
mrtksn wrote: post #73

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Oh, tell me about it. +Installs Linux, this time determined to make it daily driver. Why is this so slow though? - You need to install Nvidia drivers + Oh, OK makes sense. -- INSTALLS NVIDIA DRIVERS -- -- LINUX NO LONGER BOOTS, OBSCURE ERROR MESSAGE, FURIOUSLY GOOGLING ON A TINY PHONE SCREEN TRYING TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE -- Later made myself a Hackintosh, eventually bought an actual Mac. The Hackintosh stuff was much,…

> It's sad to hear that graphics drivers are still not a solved problem on Linux. Indeed and still nothing has changed. Last time I checked, installing a Nvidia driver crashed the whole desktop and every-time you boot you Linux distro, it gives you a black screen with X11 or Wayland pop ups. A magnificent waste of time that was fixing things in order to do basic work. I ended up using Windows with WSL2 and waiting fo…

That's weird. I've been using an Ubuntu desktop with a GTX 1080 daily for years now, across multiple major OS versions and driver versions, with zero GPU-related issues.

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by heavyset_go »

3836293648 wrote: post #128
heavyset_go wrote: post #64

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> I don't understand how this demand helps the gaming community. It doesn't. This is just miners co-opting an old argument to gain sympathy.

Eh, it absolutely helps the Linux gaming community. Not so much the Windows one though

If they release Nvidia's code it can't really help Linux compatibility out without being an IP nightmare. Miners won't have a problem using it, though.

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by usednet »

chakintosh wrote: post #189

Probably a stupid question, but even if the hackers release everything, wouldn't be illegal for competitors to use that information since NVIDIA most likely has already patented that?

Of course it would be illegal, but how would they prove it? No doubt competitors would take advantage of having the entirety of Nvidia’s architecture.

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by aaaaaaaaaaab »

chakintosh wrote: post #189

Probably a stupid question, but even if the hackers release everything, wouldn't be illegal for competitors to use that information since NVIDIA most likely has already patented that?

If it’s patented then it’s already public.

Re: Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most unusual demands ever

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Post by gruturo »

codedokode wrote: post #112

I don't understand why gamers should have any priority over miners and programmers in access to video cards. Mining or computing is a serious business. Gaming is just a way to kill time and kids would get much more benefit if they read books or did sports instead. Also, gamers don't need top video cards, 1 or 2Gb cards are fine for most games. Therefore, all restrictions on hash rate should be removed.

Gamers and programmers don't deserve any more or less priority than any other group of people. They're simply a stable market, extremely unlikely to suddenly go away in a poof, like it could happen to e.g. Ethereum if they (ever) switched to Proof of Stake, or if a few western countries got fed up and banned them.

This is simply nVidia trying to extract as much profit from the situation, without undue risk of having massive unsold inventory, but also without pissing off the 2 big markets which will certainly exist tomorrow, to curry favor with the one which might not.

> Also, gamers don't need top video cards, 1 or 2Gb cards are fine for most games.

yeah and 640k should be enough for everyone.

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