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The Cuban missile crisis seemed far less stupid. Like, shelling the nuclear power plant?
Stupid or really nihilistic. Maybe projecting nihilism is a strategy of its own. If I act as if there is nothing I care about except my goal you will never convince me to give up. So you have to give up to spare casualties.
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#223[0] https://www.greenpeace.org/static/planet4-international-stat...
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Potentially. I'd worry more about coolant and power (to run the coolant pumps if the plant has to shut down) than about direct hits on a containment structure, but it's not like that won't eventually also cause problems if they keep doing it. This is, so far as I know, the first time anyone has carried out a military attack on an operating nuclear plant. Nobody knows yet how that really plays out. But it looks like w…
I'd classify stuxnet as a military attack.
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Causing a nuclear incident in a place you want to occupy is profoundly stupid.
You're making a pretty serious assumption that they're doing something haphazard rather than something calculated and planned. What's your reason for first assuming incompetence?
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A large ecological disaster from an open air uncontrolled nuclear power plant fire would be a European wide concern. The results could be considered a WMD.
> results could be considered a WMD What rubbish. This looks like Putin found a way to tactically deploy dirty nukes within the West’s red lines.
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It’s not comparable because the type of damage is totally different.
The type of damage at Fukushima was anticipated to be survivable as well, was it not? And yet here we are.
On the other hand, I don't know whether the VVER design contemplates shelling, either.
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#229At what point do we consider the risks of letting this continue higher than the potential effects of intervention?
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#2308:07 PM EST 3/3/22 “#Ukraine energy officials telling the media and U.S. officials that elevated radiation levels are being detected at #Zaporizhzhia” - Marco Rubio, Senate Select Intel Committee Put on your glasses boys