Live stream from plant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUT36YGOh8 Automated Radiation Monitoring system: https://www.npp.zp.ua/en/safety/arms
Doesn't look like radiation levels are going up at the moment, do you know how often this page is updated?
Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest
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#52I do not understand, why are they fighting near the reactor? It only makes sense to keep troops of both sides away from something as dangerous.
Sense? What about any of this makes sense?
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#53God damn, is the Russian army really this stupid? Is this an act of desperation, ignorance or spite?
Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest
#54“#Ukraine energy officials telling the media and U.S. officials that elevated radiation levels are being detected at #Zaporizhzhia”
- Marco Rubio, Senate Select Intel Committee
Put on your glasses boys
Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest
#55Live stream from plant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUT36YGOh8 Automated Radiation Monitoring system: https://www.npp.zp.ua/en/safety/arms
Thanks. So what’s the historical norm on those numbers?
Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest
#56Live stream from plant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUT36YGOh8 Automated Radiation Monitoring system: https://www.npp.zp.ua/en/safety/arms
Thanks. So what’s the historical norm on those numbers?
Fukushima disaster levels were 400,000 μSv/h at peak. Short term dose of 10,000 μSv causes radiation sickness but probably not death. Beyond that it gets worse.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you please provide a source for this claim? I searched Bloomberg (as you claimed that you saw it mentioned there), and this [1] appears to be the only coverage of it at the momement. There is no mention of radiation levels increasing in the area. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-03/russia-at...
A Ukrainian official told the AP this about 15 minutes ago. Not fully confirmed yet.
[1] https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-a3092d8e476949...
Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest
#58I would argue that this is a near equivalence of nuclear war with Ukraine. A well-/mis-placed Russian artillery shell could cause a loss of reactor integrity and meltdown, no? EDIT: according to child comments, a meltdown is unlikely/impossible, but spread of radioactive particles due to a direct strike is possible.
No. It is many orders of magnitude less dangerous. It would potentially cause thousands of deaths, not hundreds of millions . This is true even if a melt down was caused, like Chernobyl, which others have already explained is quite improbable. Chernobyl caused between ~100 and ~16,000 deaths, depending sensitively on how one models the effects of small (sub-natural-background) radiation increases over a large populat…
Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest
#59I would argue that this is a near equivalence of nuclear war with Ukraine. A well-/mis-placed Russian artillery shell could cause a loss of reactor integrity and meltdown, no? EDIT: according to child comments, a meltdown is unlikely/impossible, but spread of radioactive particles due to a direct strike is possible.
A few artillery shells probably won't breach the containment. Missile shielding is part of the plant design (I don't know what level of shielding; US plants are designed to withstand a strike by an airliner). Not saying that the attack is thus acceptable, just saying that it will take a concerted effort to breach the containment.
Re: Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe's largest
#60I would argue that this is a near equivalence of nuclear war with Ukraine. A well-/mis-placed Russian artillery shell could cause a loss of reactor integrity and meltdown, no? EDIT: according to child comments, a meltdown is unlikely/impossible, but spread of radioactive particles due to a direct strike is possible.
No. It is many orders of magnitude less dangerous. It would potentially cause thousands of deaths, not hundreds of millions . This is true even if a melt down was caused, like Chernobyl, which others have already explained is quite improbable. Chernobyl caused between ~100 and ~16,000 deaths, depending sensitively on how one models the effects of small (sub-natural-background) radiation increases over a large populat…