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Re: I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again

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Post by upbeat_general » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 5:43 PM UTC

shrubble wrote: post #28

I have a great deal of skepticism concerning fully-autonomous cars, TBH. There are just too many corner cases around weather and sensing, etc., not to mention insurance and other regulatory hurdles. Personally, the idea of "a wire in the road" by which I mean something like cats-eyes in the road but with RFID tags placed every 40 feet, or some other common means maintained by the DOT that all cars can use to sense wh…

Most issues are due to sensing humans/new human behavior, not localization. It would be difficult to make a universal system of tags/reference markers that comes close to a decent HD maps solution, even one out of date.

Re: I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again

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Post by bastawhiz » Wed, Mar 02, 2022, 2:40 AM UTC

dncornholio wrote: post #190

bastawhiz wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth being precise about the terminology: Autopilot comes with the car (autosteer), FSD is what costs $10k extra. Conflating the two makes it harder to have a conversation about what either actually is or does.

But, they are both scams.

Autopilot (name aside) does the same exact thing that most car manufacturers offer in luxury cars. So I'm not sure what part you think is a scam.

Re: I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again

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Post by pxx » Wed, Mar 02, 2022, 4:58 PM UTC

earleybird wrote: post #178

pxx wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I missing something? What specifically is a paradigm shift in the last three months?

Elsewhere in this subthread was mentions CLIP[0] About 2/3rds down the page features 'Object tracking' and 'Robotic control' [0] https://blog.roboflow.com/openai-clip/

This isn't something from the past three months...

Re: I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman » Wed, Mar 02, 2022, 8:17 PM UTC

epgui wrote: post #175

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #162

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> I absolutely think the type of decision we're talking about can be modelled. The possibility is not in dispute. Billions of biological organisms do these things everyday. But this is: > It's pretty much how your brain solves these sorts of problems too, there's no magic to intuition or human decision-making. Is it how the brain works? My ball example isn't about it having a closed solution. If you throw a ball I ca…

Yes, to some degree, we know that brains work that way. It’s not a big mystery. (What is a mystery is the exact way things are wired up, but not the building blocks, and not the general organizational principles.) Source: I did neuroanatomy in med school (but am not a doctor).

> to some degree > What is a mystery is the exact way things are wired up

You don't think that's a lot of hand waving? Can you explain why the details wouldn't matter?

Re: I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again

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Post by dncornholio » Thu, Mar 03, 2022, 2:11 PM UTC

bastawhiz wrote: post #202

dncornholio wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But, they are both scams.

Autopilot (name aside) does the same exact thing that most car manufacturers offer in luxury cars. So I'm not sure what part you think is a scam.

You just have answered your own question :)

Re: I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again

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Post by silentsea90 » Fri, Mar 04, 2022, 9:41 PM UTC

AlotOfReading wrote: post #180

silentsea90 wrote: post #68

Huge fan of Kyle and the Cruise team. I remember covering Cruise in a class assignment back in 2014, and was very skeptical of the idea of selling self driving kits to existing car owners. Ever since, they've gotten acquired (or something) and are holding up their own against behemoths in the space. Cruise's reviews on Blind are pretty bad, something that keeps me away from joining them as an employee, but I suppose…

As someone who recently left, many of the complaints on blind aren't anywhere close to my personal experiences. I enjoyed the technical side (which is a bit chaotic), but the admin side is borderline antagonistic to the rest of the company. Moreover, the company is on the losing side of a power struggle with GM. The former CEO was a victim of that, seemingly as was the equity and compensation plan.

Can you elaborate on the power aspect - specifically - I thought GM had a minor stake and that Kyle/former CEO etc. have controlling stake? If not, I can see that GM would run roughshod over Cruise's plans. As an aside, Cruise comp numbers on levels.fyi seem pretty reasonable so I am unsure where comp is an issue? Does it relate to refreshers?

Re: I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again

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Post by epgui » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 7:47 PM UTC

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #204

epgui wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, to some degree, we know that brains work that way. It’s not a big mystery. (What is a mystery is the exact way things are wired up, but not the building blocks, and not the general organizational principles.) Source: I did neuroanatomy in med school (but am not a doctor).

> to some degree > What is a mystery is the exact way things are wired up You don't think that's a lot of hand waving? Can you explain why the details wouldn't matter?

Yeah, I concede that it absolutely is a lot of hand-waving. But we're also talking about emergent properties: it's possible to understand why they arise, what the emergent properties are, and how the underlying system works, without having full information about it all. In fact that's a very analogous situation to our thermodynamic understanding of gases, or fluid dynamics.

I don't want to mislead, there is an incredible amount of stuff we don't know... But we do understand more than most well-informed people think, even people in adjacent fields.