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> what a shitshow the first few days of the Russian invasion has been. Major breakdown of their digital systems and lots of improvisation. can we corroborate this with chinese and/or non-western media? it’s hard for me to believe anything at all during a war.
Western media this time is pretty much on point. It doesn't mean that the media has become better. It is just that their standard narrative of bad Russia has this time really matched and even got exceeded by the reality as Russia is actually waging criminally atrocious and completely unprovoked and unjustified war while the Ukrainians are really fighting it tooth and nail. The Ukrainians' current most important victo…
how do you know this?
> so i mostly settled on the Ukrainian TV
these the same guys that said the ghost of kiev is a real thing (it’s not)? or that the soldiers of snake island died (they didn’t)?
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> what a shitshow the first few days of the Russian invasion has been. Major breakdown of their digital systems and lots of improvisation. can we corroborate this with chinese and/or non-western media? it’s hard for me to believe anything at all during a war.
Chinese? For real? Why the fuck would they be impartial?
To clarify, are you suggesting these are unusual because "farms" are being marked in urban areas? What is the possibility these are simply addresses of farming-related businesses (e.g. farm equipment suppliers)? (comment cannot be removed, only edited)
To clarify, are you suggesting these are unusual because "farms" are being marked in urban areas? What is the possibility these are simply addresses of farming-related businesses (e.g. farm equipment suppliers)? (comment cannot be removed, only edited)
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Western media this time is pretty much on point. It doesn't mean that the media has become better. It is just that their standard narrative of bad Russia has this time really matched and even got exceeded by the reality as Russia is actually waging criminally atrocious and completely unprovoked and unjustified war while the Ukrainians are really fighting it tooth and nail. The Ukrainians' current most important victo…
> Western media this time is pretty much on point. how do you know this? > so i mostly settled on the Ukrainian TV these the same guys that said the ghost of kiev is a real thing (it’s not)? or that the soldiers of snake island died (they didn’t)?
I think it is fair to hold media to high standards, but shouldn't we cut them just a little slack if their country is literally being invaded right now?
For the record, I personally know I can trust that last part because I have friends and relatives living in the east of Ukraine (none of whom are particularly politically biased either way, they have kids and want the attacks to end). I cannot report any wild rampage and killing of innocent civilians, but I can definitely confirm the invasion, the soldiers and military equipment, the inability to leave the city, blown up bridges and train tracks, people hiding in basements for days, explosions, etc.
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Chinese? For real? Why the fuck would they be impartial?
who said anything about impartial?
But please don't suggest lack of Chinese sources is a relevant data point.
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China is a close ally of Russia and does not have much media freedom. I do not know why you think it would be worth listening to anything they claim.
african media then? or maybe middle east?
Japan's media doesn't seem to have a very different perspective:
South Africa; similar stories and conclusions as most of the world:
https://www.netwerk24.com/beeld/aktueel
This Lebanese newspaper has an interesting take on how the Western media coverage is using double standards (perhaps a valid point), but nowhere do they dispute the current event:
https://lebanonews.net/En/2022/02/27/double-standards-wester...
Taiwan then?
https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2022/03/02/2...
I don’t know if this is true. But to everyone dismissing the idea that a military would ever use Google Maps to co-ordinate, you may have missed some news stories about what a shitshow the first few days of the Russian invasion has been. Major breakdown of their digital systems and lots of improvisation.
Same, I don't know if it's true that they are marks for Russian air strikes. But I've just tried and it does look weird (farms in the middle of the city).
Spotters might very well use Google map to get coordinates but to communicate that via Google Maps itself would be strange. I don't see how fire control would not want to know what they are marking for prioritisation.
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Chinese? For real? Why the fuck would they be impartial?
There are no impartial media.
1) best intention from the media to be unbiased
2) minimum level of intelligence to spot bias and question the motivation by the reader
3) trust from the reader in the media that they're not willfully misled
4) trust from the media to the reader that they put things into the correct context within their own belief system
even one has (hypothetically) all of those, the audience will still be bitten by not sharing the same historic data and personal experience to put things into identical context as was available to when the info was produced. then there is the time-lag from when it gets written/published/read that distorts.