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This is Hacker News, I think about workarounds and ways to hack "the system". The article talks about a pat on the shoulder to stealthily check for the Brahmin white thread. What's to prevent someone from wearing a thread under their clothes? If you have a religious problem with it, wear a color other than white, people aren't seeing it.
Most of the time you look deeply these stories are coming from Hinduphobic think tanks eventually funded by Islamist and/or evangelists. SONIA PAUL the writer is probably funded by the same Bangladeshi group that funded the fake Cisco caste lawsuite.
Wow, the article really called it when it comes to deflections like this.
The reason for my current user name here at hn was this exact form of racism. It is the first post I made when I created this throwaway. I was assured that my experience was unique and not widespread. I am both sad and happy to see this, sad because it exists, happy because it is getting some attention here at HN. I would like to take this opportunity to point out that everyone of us needs to be vigilant about this t…
I think you might be mistaken with this, even lower class people from these nationalities (the least educated ones) have no problem working with each other. Especially untrue for those with higher education (high school and above).
It's so disappointing to see in the article that caste discrimination is still being blamed by some on the religion of Hinduism. There's no dharmic status whatsoever for "caste" in the commonplace sense. The Vedas occasionally talk about something that gets misinterpreted as caste, but it's very clear from the texts that they're talking about individual callings and aptitudes, and not any sort of immutable status. Th…
But when people leave a religion, they're not just leaving what the religion is on paper, because that's not what anyone engages with. They're leaving how the religion operates in practice, and that includes how people practice that religion day to day.
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Actually, Sai Deepak mentions that 15% of those classified as SC/STs also wear the sacred thread. Of course, we know 'Shudras' have run empires in India and have held high status before the age of colonialism. Unsuprising that the Western press and academia has the nuance of a brick, perhaps because their own history is so grotesquely checkered.
This is extremely misleading and a copout to suggest that even SC/STs wear the thread. Reality is that 99.99% of them don't. I wouldn't trust Sai Deepak with anything, he's a nut job who for some reason sounds eloquent to the upper class Hindus.
This is true for any demagogues btw. It’s why Jordan Peterson appeals so much to upper class White Americans.
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Caste among Sikh[1] and Muslim[2] communities is as deeply rooted as caste in Hindus. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BSN-3nmMyM [2] https://theprint.in/opinion/indias-muslim-community-under-a-...
Did you just man-splain someone’s own religion/community?
I grew up Mormon. Many, perhaps most active Mormons will spin controversial Mormon history and teachings in the best possible light, and downplay toxic cultural practices as being not that common, or not really part of the church (even when they were widespread).
It's funny, there was even a sort of saying on my mission, "Would you go to a Chevy dealer to ask about a Ford car? No, you'd go to a Ford dealer!" to try and explain why you should trust LDS missionaries. But of course, that saying doesn't really make any sense -- the real authority you should trust would obviously be a reputable third party, not someone with incentives going either way.
> A pat on the shoulder might be a friendly greeting—or a search for a sacred thread that some dominant-caste Hindu men wear beneath their shirts I'm a non-dalit Indian working in silicon valley. I know that caste based discrimination is still prevalent in India and not surprised that it continues in here in silicon valley as well amongst Indian community but I'm surprised to read this part in the article. I have nev…
Caste and class divisions run very deep in South Asian culture. I’m disappointed that even in tech where workers are generally highly educated this is something that continues to exist (please: I’m not talking about the necessity of a college education to be a good engineer, that’s another conversation. I’m pointing out that most tech jobs require a college education, in many cases Grad School education).
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Actually, Sai Deepak mentions that 15% of those classified as SC/STs also wear the sacred thread. Of course, we know 'Shudras' have run empires in India and have held high status before the age of colonialism. Unsuprising that the Western press and academia has the nuance of a brick, perhaps because their own history is so grotesquely checkered.
This is extremely misleading and a copout to suggest that even SC/STs wear the thread. Reality is that 99.99% of them don't. I wouldn't trust Sai Deepak with anything, he's a nut job who for some reason sounds eloquent to the upper class Hindus.
Past related threads. I think there have been others. How Big Tech Is Importing India’s Caste Legacy to Silicon Valley - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26435117 - March 2021 (195 comments) Caste discrimination in some of Silicon Valley's richest tech companies - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24952698 - Oct 2020 (322 comments) How India's ancient caste system is ruining lives in Silicon Valley - https://n…
Every time such articles pop-up, I wonder what rock am I living under. In 22 years of experience (Half in US/UK and rest in India) in eight global organizations, not even a single time I heard or witnessed any cast based biases. What we regularly see is region/lingustic biases. Cast based discrimination exist in India, but in my experience the issue is overblown in the knowledge industry.
A thing to keep in mind is that the Tech industry is very large. Even within organizations culture can be really different; cue Amazon engineers sharing horror stories while others paint it as the best place they’ve ever worked at.