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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by jacquesm »

gspetr wrote: post #840
ausudhz wrote: post #683

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Yes go and check the distance between the border and the first "valid" Russian city, then do the same from the border to the other side. Then think about the fact that is cold now and, additionally, that the border with Europe is full of military. Now that you consider all tell me where they're supposed to go.

2 developers I'm in contact with are moving from St.Petersburg to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladikavkaz and then to Georgia even as we speak, 1 by train, another by plane.

They should make it, that's a fairly safe route, the train will take a long time though.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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MrDisposable wrote: post #24
cf141q5325 wrote: post #12

You might want to check stuff like virtual office service, incorporation in an EU country, they start really cheap, as well as getting a VPS to bounce from. And stuff like Electronic Money Institutes for at least some really basic banking. Fair warning though, some of these things look rather shady so use some common sense and be careful with your local legislation (See MrDisposables response) edit: To elaborate on t…

> "incorporation in an EU country" Illegal, due to the "КИК" law, and, if I remember correctly, punishable by a heavy yearly fine (about $50K ath the current exchange rate). > "Electronic Money Institutes for at least some really basic banking" Outgoing transfers to foreign banks and electronic money institutions are now illegal, due to the yesterday's order that forbids Russian residents to transfer money to their o…

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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by CRConrad »

bigodbiel wrote: post #775
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #526

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"We" did not escalate this; Russia did by annexing Crimea in 2014 and invading Ukraine. They could have chosen not to do so and instead focus on building up good international relationships. What did they think they had to gain from annexing neighbouring territory? More control over the Black Sea I guess, but why do they want that control in the first place? Russia can de-escalate by withdrawing. The only way for 'th…

How was, before this hell, the consensus of the people in Ukraine for a Finland like solution, ceading territory (Crimea), neutrality (non-Nato), but within the EU (won't ask about Minsk agreement, cause I know no one supported it)? I always found this to have been the best option for all sides.

> a Finland like solution, ceading territory

Sure, you can advocate using the Winter War robbery of East Carelia and Vyborg from the independent democratic nation of Finland as a model if you want. Two questions about that, though:

1) How much did that help? Didn't exactly sate the Soviet Union's appetite for acquisition and oppression of satellite states, did it?

2) Advocating an appeasement model seems (at least to me) to imply endorsement not only of the temporary calm it might buy, but also of its moral and ethical justice. Care to expound on how you do that?

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by 5ESS »

fer wrote: post #828
5ESS wrote: post #657

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Yeah, why whould Europe care about the Austrian painter annexing Czechoslovakia? This only concerns Germany and Czechoslovakia. Same with Germany and Austria, don't get involved. Germany and Netherlands, just a border dispute. Germany and France, none of your business. Germany and the Soviet Union, why would you care? It's almost as if we could ignore all the international law we created after WW2, jeez. The sad thin…

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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by fmcoder »

jarek83 wrote: post #821

It's so bad for Russian people and companies. We generally should not give any advice to them since their rescued incomes pour money into killings of Ukraine civilians. I hope you guys could cut off from the devastating powers in your country in some way.

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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by jacquesm »

gdy wrote: post #800
diiiimaaaa wrote: post #756

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I really appreciate your position, but the letter is incredibly weak. I understand that it's aimed at government that won't read it otherwise, but: You call it "operation", it's not operation, it's war. You ask to prevent human casualties, but thousands are already dead. A lot of people signing from companies such as Yandex - a search engine that promotes propaganda and hides evidence-based journalism. From VK - a so…

I didn't want to imply that we are doing anything meaningful, just that we at the very least don't condone what's happening. Many are running the hell away from Russia and that's something the government has already got concerned about. Unlike the letter.

The iron curtain was never about keeping people out, it was about keeping people in.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by 5ESS »

yznovyak wrote: post #742
5ESS wrote: post #169

Could I (US citizen) get in trouble for providing free VPNs to Russian nationals? Would these Russians get in trouble for using my US based VPN? I want to support Russians during this difficult time but I don’t want them to get in trouble. I disagree with sanctioning and punishing ordinary citizens for the actions of the rich and powerful 1%. Imagine how it feel being a US citizen and getting punished for Donald Trum…

> I disagree with sanctioning and punishing ordinary citizens for the actions of the rich and powerful 1%. ... I no longer buy this. The war is, unfortunately, very popular with ordinary Russians. And I hope you don't have any illusions that the citizens sincerely support their dear leader Putin. I don't know what would convince you, but if you're American I will assume that you can't read Russian. So for an English…

Why are there videos of civilians living in the disputed territory claiming that Ukrainian military forces shelled their schools and homes? https://youtu.be/PGl5USbBLIo

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by fmcoder »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #765
igetspam wrote: post #748

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Anecdotal but... I was recently chatting with an old coworker. Their mother is still in Russia. The mother watches state run TV and listens to state run news. She doesn't really believe this is happening because the news says otherwise. She may believe there is some fighting but not that Russia is the aggressor. Obviously this is one relayed experience but it's important to keep propaganda machines in mind when talki…

Spending effort on convincing their family and friends that the state propaganda is not to be trusted is probably the best middle-term investment a Russian can make right now.

Have tried it with my parents, unfortunately, they eat all this crap from Putin's TV. People who are brainwashed can't really be talked into reason. Politics start and end wars, but a person can break ties with his family irreversible because of those in-family political discussions.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by CRConrad »

modernpink wrote: post #589
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #526

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"We" did not escalate this; Russia did by annexing Crimea in 2014 and invading Ukraine. They could have chosen not to do so and instead focus on building up good international relationships. What did they think they had to gain from annexing neighbouring territory? More control over the Black Sea I guess, but why do they want that control in the first place? Russia can de-escalate by withdrawing. The only way for 'th…

We also have to understand Russia's grievances instead of seeing it in terms of an evil side attacking the good side because it's not that simple. The US would hardly be best pleased if Mexico started receiving arms from China and North Korea right at its border.

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