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Re: Kindle Fire - Full Color Kindle with 7" Multi-Touch Display, Wi-Fi

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8 hours reading :( (vs 3 weeks for e-ink)

Don't forget: 7+ hours video (vs 0 for e-ink)

Nonsense! The e-ink does video.

http://gigaom.com/2011/07/08/how-do-you-get-video-on-kindle-...

It just has a very low frame rate. And no sound ;)

Re: Kindle Fire - Full Color Kindle with 7" Multi-Touch Display, Wi-Fi

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Well at $199 with that kind of integrated experience there is little room for complaints! ($300 would be a different story.) Plus it supports Flash and most Android games/apps from Amazon app store. If people put up a better email client on Amazon store for decent price it would be even better. For someone who already has Prime but no tablet - this is a no brainer. Thinking of all this - I think this will eat into th…

If people put up a better email client on Amazon store for decent price it would be even better.

k9 mail (free, open source) is already available on amazon's android appstore, and it's a much better client than the stock android email app.

Re: Kindle Fire - Full Color Kindle with 7" Multi-Touch Display, Wi-Fi

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Why wouldn't they mention the RAM it has? Why wouldn't they mention what wireless chipset it has? Why wouldn't they mention the amount of internal storage? I can answer all these questions, as well as the hundred other ones that geeks will ask: Because none of this matters to the millions of people who will buy them. To understand the difference between a company that "gets it" and your average geek who wonders why t…

Well actually they don't mention what version of Android because they have modified it so much it probably doesn't matter. On the other hand, they DO mention how much ram and internal storage it has.

it does matter to all the developers that will be submitting apps to their appstore. amazon has probably changed the interface a bit and made their own apps look nice, but if they want to remain compatible with all of the apps currently in their appstore, they will not have changed any of the underlying android api and what version they based it on is important for app developers.

Re: Kindle Fire - Full Color Kindle with 7" Multi-Touch Display, Wi-Fi

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I think it's not a good move for Amazon. E-Ink kindles are much more useful and friendly for book readers. They would choose to improve it with an html5 application platform (check this out; http://www.flickr.com/photos/azer/5966867029/ )

Kindle is a book device. Fire is a movies/pictures/web device. Neither really compare directly to an iPad.

Re: Kindle Fire - Full Color Kindle with 7" Multi-Touch Display, Wi-Fi

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http://www.bgr.com/2011/04/05/mlb-com-ceo-android-users-less... The Android platform offers a broad range of possible devices. There's a plethora of low end devices that account for almost no purchases. If you're looking anecdotally, more developers are likely to have high-end androids (i.e. people you're likely to see). Those aren't representative of the android demographic as a whole, which is less likely to pay fo…

Pretty weak stuff, here is a counter example http://blogs.computerworld.com/17941/android_ios_app_profit

Not weak at all. There's a bias on the Android platform to the top games (or apps). It's probably not surprising at all that a top app would do well there. But overall the platform is less lucrative for the majority of developers.

There's several reasons why there's less developers focusing on Android. One of the biggest is the way the Android Marketplace updates their most popular app lists. The list changes much less frequently than iOS. With an overall bias of all users towards checking out apps on the top list, it's just more difficult to get seen on Android. Beyond that, there's less demand for apps outside the top 10 list on Android. Big app companies will continue to support the platform. Indie developers will continue to make it less of a priority since they don't make as much money there.

It's obvious you're an Android supporter. There's nothing wrong with that. There's a lot to like about the platform. If someone's criteria for a tablet is access to lots of high quality apps, Android is not the platform for them. There's a reason Disney chose to support iOS for their new Cars interactive app. That's where the majority of the money is for developers, and where most developers will focus, for at least the near term.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/238375/android_users_only_hav...

Re: Kindle Fire - Full Color Kindle with 7" Multi-Touch Display, Wi-Fi

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The issue with the Android platform, and these new low cost devices perpetuate, is that Android users spend significantly less on apps. Android is getting good traction in the low end smart phone market, but those people just aren't buying apps. The Amazon product seems to be centered around Amazon's offerings, making it more of a media device than an app device. If having access to lots of high quality apps is impor…

I don't believe your statement is true, do you have any stats?

As someone who sells apps on Android and iOS, this has been my experience

Re: Kindle Fire - Full Color Kindle with 7" Multi-Touch Display, Wi-Fi

#87
post #8

I can't help but think of the Kindle commercial on the beach where the iPad owner asks the Kindle owner, "It works in sunlight?"

Funny tip: It was only last weekend I discovered than an iPad works with polarized sunglasses on, IF you use it in landscape mode. That was a major d'oh realization. I hope for Amazon's sake, the Fire works in sunlight.

Nice to know, but my iPad lasts no more than 10 minutes in direct sunlight. The thing starts burning up, and there is an early warning of impending doom when the display starts dimming.

Re: Kindle Fire - Full Color Kindle with 7" Multi-Touch Display, Wi-Fi

#88

Well at $199 with that kind of integrated experience there is little room for complaints! ($300 would be a different story.) Plus it supports Flash and most Android games/apps from Amazon app store. If people put up a better email client on Amazon store for decent price it would be even better. For someone who already has Prime but no tablet - this is a no brainer. Thinking of all this - I think this will eat into th…

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Re: Kindle Fire - Full Color Kindle with 7" Multi-Touch Display, Wi-Fi

#89
post #67

> does not support connecting to ad-hoc (or peer-to-peer) Wi-Fi networks. That struck me as a little odd at first, but after considering it for a minute, I think it's probably a smart move.

why?

The majority of the time I've seen people connected to ad-hoc wifi, they thought they were getting free internet access and didn't understand why it didn't work.

Also, as I understand it, to only plays local content and internet content - nothing from the local network.

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