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If the sanctions didn’t work before, I don’t know why they would work now. I don’t have the answers, but certainly any move toward more militarization of the world is usually a bad thing.
> If the sanctions didn’t work before, I don’t know why they would work now. Just look at short term effects: Ruble is down 30%, Russian banks in EU are going bankrupt, interest rate jumped to 20% so anyone with a loan in Russia is screwed... There's talk of seizing people's savings... Nobody can buy foreign currency... Perhaps they'll go back to trading with Kent cigar packs like in former USSR. Longer term, it's as…
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#742Could I (US citizen) get in trouble for providing free VPNs to Russian nationals? Would these Russians get in trouble for using my US based VPN? I want to support Russians during this difficult time but I don’t want them to get in trouble. I disagree with sanctioning and punishing ordinary citizens for the actions of the rich and powerful 1%. Imagine how it feel being a US citizen and getting punished for Donald Trum…
... I no longer buy this. The war is, unfortunately, very popular with ordinary Russians. And I hope you don't have any illusions that the citizens sincerely support their dear leader Putin.
I don't know what would convince you, but if you're American I will assume that you can't read Russian. So for an English source look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_2022_Russ... which is far from unbiased source, but it has a good list of references. So far the anti-war protests gathered barely a couple of thousand of people across the whole country. Even if you multiply those numbers times 10 (because people are afraid of police), and then by another factor of 10 (because official numbers may lie) you will still get a negligible number like 0.01% of the population.
At the same time Berlin alone has had 100k+ people on the streets.
But if you can read Russian, then just take a peek at pikabu.ru and d3.ru (which are like reddit in Russia) or any popular livejournal accounts. You will find too many anti-ukrainian sentiments describing us all as literal nazis [1].
Our soldiers are also finding smartphones of dead Russian soldiers and there has been quite a few photos of their communication back home ( https://i.imgur.com/1OZXgfw.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/oXUL2FJ.jpeg ). The first photo is his communication with his sister where she's asking about the war and "hohols" (derogatory term for Ukrainians), the second photo is his communication with his "beloved girlfriend" where the girlfriend asks to show no mercy to "them", "them" being hohols ... errr ... Ukrainians, I presume, because we, allegedly, would show no mercy to them; which is ironic because if you guys could just fuck off back home it would be really swell.
[1] calling Ukrainians nazis is a fucking bullshit -- our president is jewish, who got elected in an actual election by 73% of the country. Oh yeah, and the runner up candidate (ex-president) is also jewish. And yes, we, unlike Russia, did in fact have an actual elections. If Russians are so against nazis then why the fuck Russian PMC (private military corporation) Wagner is involved here (on the Russian side, of course) whose commander is this fucking asshole with an actual nazi insignia: https://newlinesmag.com/wp-content/uploads/utkin-tattoos.jpg ( from this article https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/the-wagner-group-files/ )?!
At this point I believe that Russia is pretty much North Korea -- their rulers have such a tight grip on their citizens that the citizens are now truly brainwashed into thinking that their dear leader is God incarnate and that the rest of the world is indeed out to get them.
I am Ukrainian living in Kyiv. On 24th of February I woke up from the sounds of rockets bombing the shit of my city. I've been a programmer since as long as I can remember myself, but now I'm making Molotov's to help repel the invaders because I'm now 100% sure that I will be "cleansed" on some trumped-up charges of being a nazi in case Russia does indeed take over Ukraine. And cleansed here means imprisoned or killed, and I'm not being dramatic here, this is the exact term used by Russia as one of their explicit stated goal of this so called "special operation". The best I can hope for is that I'll have few more years to live until I'll be used as a cannon fodder in some other bullshit war Russia starts.
This war is literally an existential threat to me. And from the looks of it, majority of Russians actually support it.
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#743This whole situation is so surreal and disappointing. I grew up on Star Trek and somehow I just though we had (almost) arrived in a post-war, federation-like world. We know things should be solved with words because otherwise there are only losers. It’s how we raise our kids. I just keep thinking about how Jean Luc is looking down on us from orbit, slowly shaking his head whispering “Savages.”
In the Star Trek canon, world-war III starts in 2026: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Star_Trek#21st_cen...
We're right on schedule. This is obviously no joking matter but this scenario has been with us for decades already.
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Dmytro, I'm Russian living in Russia and I'm devastated and terrified by this war of aggression. I have friends in Ukraine and I can hear siren wailing while talking with them via Skype. There are already about 30 thousand members of Russian IT-industry who signed open letter against this war. Yesterday it was about 20 thousands. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rSmclqedrhTASIsyXLOz39pU...
JFYI, I'm also Ukrainian living in Ukraine [0] (Poltava region), actually joined territorial defence forces as volunteer to defend own town. All Russian should do right now — go outside of your house, gather with other Russsians and strike & show your protest "by hands" near your city administration! Signing "open letter", "petitions" or just "keep placard" would NOT has any effect — so do not waste your and our time…
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"You just don't get to support a murderous communist regime for 100 years and then say "but we had nothing to do with it"." The soviet regime is long gone, but with reference to the current regime. It's been put there and supported by the West. In the shock treatment of the economy, the giving away of the state to an oligarchy and to contracts to western companies, the US and CIA support of Yeltsin up to and includin…
If you make a distinction between soviet regime and current regime, I'm sorry, but I can't spend another second reading further into any other noise coming out of your keyboard.
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This is way worse than Georgia, Krim and Chechnya combined. Ukraine is a big country with a big army. The stakes Russia are putting in are big and shows the commitment with the pretense of being cornered. It is a full invasion. Also the NATO and EU military support in what Russia sees as their business is escalating the risks. This is probably two magnitudes worse concerning the risk for further spread.
I think it's important to distinguish Putin and Russia here. I don't think Russia sees Ukraine as their business.
Maybe they thought there would be a repetition of the rather clean Krim expedition.
Maybe the shadow elite are against the war.
I don't know.
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>Are any countries accepting refuges from Russia that seek asylum? This is an important topic. Some EU countries like Czechia are even blocking visas for Russian citizens now and I think this will be a trend in other EU countries. AFAIK, since Russia is the aggressor here and is (on paper) a democratic country (but not really), then its citizens are not considered yet victims of the war, and are most likely not falli…
CNN finds that twice as many Russians believe it would be right for Moscow to use military force to prevent Kyiv from joining the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) as say it would be wrong. One out of every two Russians (50%) says it would be right, while only a quarter (25%) say it would be wrong. The other quarter (25%) are unsure, according to the survey. But the poll also found that more Russians think it…
I was recently chatting with an old coworker. Their mother is still in Russia. The mother watches state run TV and listens to state run news.
She doesn't really believe this is happening because the news says otherwise. She may believe there is some fighting but not that Russia is the aggressor.
Obviously this is one relayed experience but it's important to keep propaganda machines in mind when talking about volumes of support.
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Unfortunately, you're supporting the dictatorship in Russia by providing your services from abroad. Russians understand that the sanctions are going to hit them hard because of Putin's actions and only Russian people can stop him. The change can only happen from within - poor or rich, weak or powerful, everyone in Russia needs to stand up against Putin to stop the war.
The change will occur within much faster if Russians have a safe and secure means to communicate with the outside world. It sounds more like you (and others who support sanctions) are more interested in making Russians suffer as some sort of revenge rather than invoking any kind of meaningful change in their governance.
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> How do we know it’s propaganda? If your country is always right and the rest are always wrong, that could be a hint. In Western media you'll find voices for and against the war. In Russian media it's barely acknowledged that there's a war ongoing.
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Stop this bullshit, it's not working.
> the other 200 countries in the world have absolutely no idea whats really going on in that area
Yes, over 200 000 Ukrainian refugees that moved to Poland last 5 days have no idea what is really going on. They left everything on days notice and moved to a foreign country cause they love Russia so much.
> have no idea about this area’s history
even if it was true (and it isn't - history is taught everywhere and Russian version of history is famously biased) - why would history matter? History won't make killing people right suddenly.
> what the locals in DPR and LPR really want
Even if all of them wanted to become part of Russia - why would it matter more than people of Ukraine who want to be part of EU? There's more people outside of the occupied parts.
What you're doing is disgusting. I hope they pay you enough.