Tell HN: If You Are in Russia • Hacker News Board

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by 9214 » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:33 AM UTC

blablablub wrote: post #269

What are the possibilities for an average russian citizen to leave russia and start over somewhere in the west? How about visas? Does anyone know?

In 2022: zero, unless you have relatives/friends from abroad who are willing to help. I'm mid-20s below-average Russian born and raised in a city with population of 19k (and declining), Ural region. Average salary here is around 200-300 USD, 400 if you are lucky.

I emmigrated in 2019 to work with an international startup in Montenegro: and ended up being ostracized and harassed by my manager from another country (won't point fingers to avoid unnecesary nationalism) on a cultural/ethnical basis; was forced to leave after a year and a half.

After that, in 2021, I was offered to come to US by a fellow colleague with Ukranian roots: worker visas were denied to Russian citizens at that point, and most of the embassies were either closed or worked in a limited capacity (also due to pandemic).

My last attempt (again in 2021) was to apply for PhD in EPHE institute of France (I have an MS degree in a programme related to medical tech, computer vision, and brain-computer interfaces): I got nothing in response.

Since then I have been holed up in my hometown. Another friend of mine proposed some time ago to come to Vietnam: but with the entire world openly opposed to my nation, I doubt that will ever happen.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by _ph_ » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:33 AM UTC

ncallaway wrote: post #336

5ESS wrote: post #185

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How are sanctions going to make anybody more informed? They dont…That makes no sense. Instead of sanctions, a more effective strategy would be to provide Russians with free VPNs so that they can access western news media.

I'm going to articulate the theory, but I want to be clear that I'm not advocating it. The general idea is that a war in a foreign country (even a neighbor) is pretty easy to ignore (especially if state media doesn't cover it). If you don't have relative or friends there, you could easily go on believing exactly what the government reports--that it's a limited military operation, etc. You're busy at work, you've got…

Most sanctions are aimed mostly at the oligarchs, and that is good so. But things have reached a point (and may be the sanctions started way to late), at which the whole population needs to be notified of what is going on and it needs to be made clear, that the whole population has a say in how things progress.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by dash2 » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:33 AM UTC

teekert wrote: post #386

ihateolives wrote: post #294

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You do realize that only thing EU and US have done about Russia escalating situations all over the place (Crimea, North Caucasus, Georgia, South Ossetia, Chechnya, Dagestan etc) is talk, talk, talk. Has it helped? Nope. Russia seems to be immune to talking.

We talked, but what concessions did we make?

Are you seriously suggesting that the problem with Western policy towards Russia is that we didn’t appease Putin enough? That is, to say the least, a weird take.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by wwilim » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:33 AM UTC

codebolt wrote: post #286

throwawayvibes wrote: post #170

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Why do you monitor your kids?

Very helpful to control their apps and give them a daily screen time allowance (1 hour on weekdays, 2 hours in weekend). I don't like the idea of my 11 year old spending days and nights on e.g. TikTok, not to mention browsing for porn. Also useful to have the ability to see where they are, although I don't use this feature too much.

or you could just talk to your kids about it, spend time with them and help them find something more worthwhile to do

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by hnov » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:33 AM UTC

mordae wrote: post #209

MrDisposable wrote: post #37

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> I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision Drastic. Catastrophic. Suicidal. World-changing. The country (Russia) in its current form has just ceased to exist. The entire parasitic elite class just got cut off from everything they stole during all these years. The entire human potential of Russia just got nullified for at lest 20 years. The push towards green energy (and I hope nuclear fusion) just got a…

It should have been you, Russians, bleeding and dying in a war against Putin. Not Ukrainians so far away from his seat of power. It's so easy to think to yourself that you cannot make the world a better place and then to give up and only care about yourself. Well, sometimes it fires back. You should start thinking about future Russia. Maybe it's not too late to turn this catastrophe to a victory of the Russian People…

Thoughts and prayers aren’t going to do much when you’re getting beaten to death in the basement at Lubyanka.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by aa-jv » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:33 AM UTC

ihateolives wrote: post #324

nathias wrote: post #271

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They aren't holding Russia accountable, they holding Russians accountable and that seems like a terrible thing.

They're not holding Russians accountable, they're hoping that Russians will hold their own government accountable for once. Just, like, for once.

This is also the point of terrorist attacks: that the people will be so outraged when they learn about the terrorists' motives for the attack that they will rise up and "do something" about their government.

Americans can't be this shallow. This is ridiculous. THINK about what you are suggesting with these sanctions regimes. Sanctions are a crime against humanity, too.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by Yoric » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:33 AM UTC

dmitrygr wrote: post #174

diiiimaaaa wrote: post #165

I am in Ukraine right now. In a small village to the north of Kyiv. I am the author of PhotoSwipe ( https://github.com/dimsemenov/photoswipe ). Yesterday I was filling bags with sand to make a fortification for local defenders. I hear artillery as I am writing this. And by the way, you get used to it. In the last few days I received about 20 emails offering support, none of them were from russian devs. One asked a te…

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(assuming that GP is not a fake – recall that in war, the first casualty is truth)

They're at war. Preparing to be bombed. Let's cut them some slack.

edit Realized that my comment was aggressive. Rewrote it a bit. Apologies for the first formulation.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by kuboble » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:33 AM UTC

ohgodplsno wrote: post #132

marcell wrote: post #66

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> I am a US citizen, and sometimes I am really ashamed of my country Is there any country in history with comparable economic and military power to the US that has a "cleaner" record in terms of "bad stuff"? I'm specifying comparable power to specifically exclude tiny nations that never had the capacity to do "bad stuff."

None of your potential candidates have ever nuked any other country, which in terms of war crimes rates pretty damn high.

I would still rate it a magnitude below https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by dumdumdumdum » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:34 AM UTC

drran wrote: post #382

dumdumdumdum wrote: post #157

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Come up with a new word. Not everything is 'whataboutism'. But more to the point, if it's such a small force why is part of the National Guard of Ukraine. Disband it and send the members suspected of war crimes to stand trial at The Hague. I'm sure a nation looking to join the EU would have no problems doing that. edit: Also something that's bothering me...what do you mean they are "explicitly neo-Nazi"? Is that some…

> what do you mean they are "explicitly neo-Nazi"? Just looks at their crimes at Wikipedia: > On 11 August, Azov battalion, backed by Ukrainian paratroopers, captured Marinka from pro-Russian rebels and entered the suburbs of Donetsk clashing with Donetsk People's Republic fighters. They're killing Russians. > In early September 2014, the Azov battalion was engaged in the Second Battle of Mariupol. Regarding the ceas…

I agree with the sentiment. I was just curious what the other commenter meant.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by aa-jv » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:34 AM UTC

thejackgoode wrote: post #266

freddealmeida wrote: post #222

This anti-Russian trope spreading is infuriating. If Apple and Google can stop their Pay services, of course everything else will be stopped. But that also means I don't want to be on those services either. It is too much power to give to Amazon, Microsoft and Google. I will actively move my own services to solutions that don't act like arms of the US government.

Every Russian passport holding person is responsible for this conflict. The sooner they understand this, the more country remaining they will have when this will end

By this reasoning, American citizens are responsible for the murder of millions of people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Pakistan .. Yemen.

I mean, fair game.