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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by hnov »

MrDisposable wrote: post #303
DoingIsLearning wrote: post #105

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Can I ask, how are these economic restrictions affecting you in your daily life? Are people able to access money at their banks? Do you predict any future food security issues? Also in your opinion, what is the likely end game now for Putin? Putin is unlikely to win this war, Ukraine have been given near unlimited anti-tank weapons by the EU/US, and have air superiority now with extra MiG's donated by NATO and TB2 dr…

> Can I ask, how are these economic restrictions affecting you in your daily life? My company may soon be unable to receive revenue from western customers. My company has two ongoing long-term projects (both took about 10 years), which now increasingly look like wasted time and money. If I'm cut off from my income source, I won't be able to retain key people, and will have to halt the development on both projects. >…

I think people miss that the world is largely zero-sum and a subdued Russia is good for the status quo

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by Yoric »

5ESS wrote: post #185
diiiimaaaa wrote: post #165

I am in Ukraine right now. In a small village to the north of Kyiv. I am the author of PhotoSwipe ( https://github.com/dimsemenov/photoswipe ). Yesterday I was filling bags with sand to make a fortification for local defenders. I hear artillery as I am writing this. And by the way, you get used to it. In the last few days I received about 20 emails offering support, none of them were from russian devs. One asked a te…

How are sanctions going to make anybody more informed? They dont…That makes no sense. Instead of sanctions, a more effective strategy would be to provide Russians with free VPNs so that they can access western news media.

It's a nice thought but I don't think that this would work in any country.

Generally, the sanctions are designed to try and convince Putin that Russia cannot afford a war against Europe/NATO. They do this:

- by targeting the money of Putin and anybody in Russia with enough money to conceivably have influence over Putin (presumably, these sanctions don't hurt common people);

- by targeting directly or indirectly the financial reserves of Russia to make it hard for Russia to bankroll the army (these most certainly do hurt the common people, too).

I'm sure that there are also propaganda/counter-propaganda operations, but these are very likely to be illegal/covert, so no country is going to publicize them.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by DoingIsLearning »

MrDisposable wrote: post #303
DoingIsLearning wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I ask, how are these economic restrictions affecting you in your daily life? Are people able to access money at their banks? Do you predict any future food security issues? Also in your opinion, what is the likely end game now for Putin? Putin is unlikely to win this war, Ukraine have been given near unlimited anti-tank weapons by the EU/US, and have air superiority now with extra MiG's donated by NATO and TB2 dr…

> Can I ask, how are these economic restrictions affecting you in your daily life? My company may soon be unable to receive revenue from western customers. My company has two ongoing long-term projects (both took about 10 years), which now increasingly look like wasted time and money. If I'm cut off from my income source, I won't be able to retain key people, and will have to halt the development on both projects. >…

Hope you and your loved ones stay safe, and that this russian epoch is a brief as possible.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by jopsen »

randomsearch wrote: post #308
jsmith99 wrote: post #86

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The Iraq war was a terrible error but it still can't be compared to Ukraine. America had no plans to colonise Iraq or absorb it into its empire. Despite the enormous death and suffering the war caused, America's aim was naive altruism: getting rid of an unquestionably evil dictator who used WMDs on his own people. There are conspiracy theories that America invaded to steal Iraq's oil but they are not plausible.

Much as I’ve defended the US in some other cases, I think that view on Iraq is somewhat naive. Yes, some wanted to get rid of an evil dictator, but it was motivated more by geopolitics than any sense of altruism.

Probably true, hehe...

But there was a coalition of naive countries going along with the US.

And it wasn't a surprise attack without serious diplomatic attempts. And even then, the US did actually worry about the legality of the invasion.

It was a mistake, but it's not the same.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by lamp987 »

iamshs wrote: post #175
darebak wrote: post #48

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Ukraine has won the narrative in the West because Western countries wanted it that way, it's actually pretty easy to do when you cut out opposing propaganda.

Ukraine is being invaded and will come under occupation. Ukrainians are being killed. There is no way Russian propaganda would have held any sway.

And yet when US military killed hundred thousand Iraqi civilians, much fewer people cared...

Propaganda works and CAN justify aggression in eyes of the people.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by Ambolia »

orloffm wrote: post #319
jd115 wrote: post #259

Here's my take on this, which you are not going to like one bit. It goes like this... The good people of Russia - and I'm not saying this with a tongue in cheek - the vast majority of the people of Russia truly are GOOD people, in the simplest, most sincere sense of the word... But they do need to go through some things. You just don't get to support a murderous communist regime for 100 years and then say "but we had…

You probably are from some eastern european country and now are just happy to spit poison at us. The amount of devastation bolsheviks caused in 20-30s, two insane wars, complete cultural destruction, what else should people go through?

The Clintons selling Russia to oligarchs in the 90s and causing a drop in life-expectancy of 10 years in the male population

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by ysamjo »

teekert wrote: post #386
ihateolives wrote: post #294

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You do realize that only thing EU and US have done about Russia escalating situations all over the place (Crimea, North Caucasus, Georgia, South Ossetia, Chechnya, Dagestan etc) is talk, talk, talk. Has it helped? Nope. Russia seems to be immune to talking.

We talked, but what concessions did we make?

From the list of Putin's demands, what should the West has conceded on??

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by alangibson »

dragonwriter wrote: post #393
alangibson wrote: post #374

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> legitimate gripe over countries WILLINGLY joining a defensive pact. I will always support self-determination. Ukraine was obviously justified in wanting to join BUT you cannot expect a country that counts casualties in the millions every time it gets invaded to not get its hackles up about a nuclear armed alliance specifically aimed at containing it expanding up to its doorstep. I look forward to seeing Putin on tr…

> expanding up to its doorstep NATO started out bordering Russia, it hasn't “expanded up to it's doorstep”. Get a map and a list of the original NATO countries.

How about "increasing KM of shared borders" which is actually what matters anyway.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by chupasaurus »

thejackgoode wrote: post #358
fulvioterzapi wrote: post #322

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> Every Russian passport holding person is responsible for this conflict. How, exactly?

To take action to end it. We are in "unstoppable force vs immovable object" situation. Putin does not have an option to lose. We don't have an option to lose the country once again. These things historically are only resolved by genocide and mass population displacement. Alternative is removing a single person from power.

Nazi Germany wasn't stopped by any of those.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by MauranKilom »

OJFord wrote: post #285
ogogmad wrote: post #254

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You think that talking to Hitler is going to stop a war?

They did, yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

> An agreement was quickly reached on Hitler's terms

> Shortly afterwards, Hitler reneged on his solemn promises to respect the integrity of Czechoslovakia

> Today, the Munich Agreement is widely regarded as a failed act of appeasement, and the term has become "a byword for the futility of appeasing expansionist totalitarian states".

Giving in to the demands of the aggressor may "stop" the war for the time being, yes. It doesn't actually solve the problem.

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