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Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by TestSIM1 »

notreallyserio wrote: post #88
TestSIM1 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

different banks? - Yes. different times - No.

How extremely odd. Wonder why the values haven't converged? Do people inside the country not have access to this information? What's stopping someone from buying 150 rubles for a dollar and then buying $1.40ish for those same 150 rubles?

I should have perhaps mentioned in the original post:

1$ = 152,3₽ (buying 1 US dollar)

1$ = 85,7₽ (selling 1 US dollar).

Just because you pay 152₽ to buy 1$ doesn't mean you can sell it at the same price. At least banks won't buy it.

According to banki.ru the best price for selling US dollar now is 94,00₽.

Hope that clarifies it.

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by notreallyserio »

TestSIM1 wrote: post #91
notreallyserio wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How extremely odd. Wonder why the values haven't converged? Do people inside the country not have access to this information? What's stopping someone from buying 150 rubles for a dollar and then buying $1.40ish for those same 150 rubles?

I should have perhaps mentioned in the original post: 1$ = 152,3₽ (buying 1 US dollar) 1$ = 85,7₽ (selling 1 US dollar). Just because you pay 152₽ to buy 1$ doesn't mean you can sell it at the same price. At least banks won't buy it. According to banki.ru the best price for selling US dollar now is 94,00₽. Hope that clarifies it.

I see, the friction is in doing the reverse transaction. I guess you could find a buyer outside the traditional markets to complete the arbitrage transactions but that's going to be risky. Thanks for the clarification.

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by [deleted] »

belter wrote: post #37
belter wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Minutes ago the BBC confirmed both Ukraine and Russia will have negotiations, without pre-conditions in the Belarus border. This means: - Its either a trap from Russia signals intelligence to be able to track Zelenskyy location. Hopefully he will not be there himself and is being well advised on that aspect by local foreign military experts. I love his Twitter posts, but I am sure all Russian military satellites are…

Unfortunately it looks, and I so much, so much, hope I am wrong, that the reasons for these negotiations, is so that Russia can transmit an Ultimatum. I have reliable information that Belarus troops are being prepared to join Russian troops at the request of military support of their Russian fellows.

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Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by rdtsc »

ukraineally wrote: post #21
mupuff1234 wrote: post #16

Playing armchair general here, but I wonder what's the playbook if Russia decides to conduct a nuclear weapon "experiment".

>Playing armchair general here, but I wonder what's the playbook if Russia decides to conduct a nuclear weapon "experiment". Any launch regardless of trajectory will be considered act of war against the world. There will be no warning shots here.

> Any launch regardless of trajectory

It's doubtful that Americans would choose to turn their cities to glass because Putin launched a single rocket in a non-US trajectory. I just don't see that happening.

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by totony »

pixl97 wrote: post #25
bluefirebrand wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the past we saw how decades of nuclear tension passed by without a single bomb dropping. I don't think anyone has a real appetite for nuclear war.

Playing the game of chicken enough times will lead to a bad outcome.

What's the alternative? Let the nuclear power that is the most mad do whatever they want?

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by lamontcg »

karaterobot wrote: post #33
Sebb767 wrote: post #5

These weapons need to be ready to retaliate with few minutes of advance in case of a first strike and Russia is engaging in an active war directly on it's border. Additionally, they are fully aware they are provoking nuclear powers right now and Bombers have been patrolling in neighboring countries since the war started. If they haven't been in alert until now, I don't know what Russia is doing. Obviously I'm not an…

It's definitely a symbolic gesture, but it's not a reaction to any threat of a first strike nuclear assault by NATO. The symbolic meaning is "I'm the craziest guy in the room, don't fuck with me".

Everyone was already fully aware of that.

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

notreallyserio wrote: post #92
TestSIM1 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I should have perhaps mentioned in the original post: 1$ = 152,3₽ (buying 1 US dollar) 1$ = 85,7₽ (selling 1 US dollar). Just because you pay 152₽ to buy 1$ doesn't mean you can sell it at the same price. At least banks won't buy it. According to banki.ru the best price for selling US dollar now is 94,00₽. Hope that clarifies it.

I see, the friction is in doing the reverse transaction. I guess you could find a buyer outside the traditional markets to complete the arbitrage transactions but that's going to be risky. Thanks for the clarification.

In times of such turmoil the spread between buy and sell price becomes so vast that it'll shield the exchangers from such schemes.

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by lamp_book »

supergirl wrote: post #45

highly unpopular opinion. NATO does have its share of blame for this escalation. they did it on purpose I would bet, to finally defeat Russia through a difficult war, without even losing 1 soldier. NATO was formed exactly for the purpose of countering the Soviet Union. Ukraine joining means rockets at small distance from Moscow. isn’t it reasonable to see it as an existential threat? it defeats the nuclear parity. US…

Ukraine had no intention or public support to join NATO before Russia invaded and annexed Crimea [0]. Russia's actions only have proven their intentions as aggressive justifying NATO's existence.

> it defeats the nuclear parity.

Ukraine gave up its nuclear armament in a peace treaty with the US and Russia. Russia is the one who violated this treaty.

> isn’t it reasonable to see it as an existential threat?

Only since Putin sees all former USSR as illegitimate states and as de facto part of the Russian empire. It has nothing to do with Russia's existence, but Putin's fantasies as what he sees as Russia. The entirety of this conflict follows Russian imperialism.

All attempts to be reasonable with Putin's Russia have been mistaken - the sanctions too weak - they have only proved to be appeasements and delaying the inevitable.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine–NATO_relations

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