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Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Putin is full of hot air. I believe with how this is going, one of his advisors or generals will kill him before allowing him to actually fire nukes and initiate MAD. These people might be ok letting him play war in the Ukraine but inviting annihilation from the rest of the world? I'm not so sure. But then again, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of rational behavior coming out of Putin's Russia.

The failures in logistics in the current escapade show he has surrounded himself by yes men IMO

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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These weapons need to be ready to retaliate with few minutes of advance in case of a first strike and Russia is engaging in an active war directly on it's border. Additionally, they are fully aware they are provoking nuclear powers right now and Bombers have been patrolling in neighboring countries since the war started. If they haven't been in alert until now, I don't know what Russia is doing. Obviously I'm not an…

It's definitely a symbolic gesture, but it's not a reaction to any threat of a first strike nuclear assault by NATO. The symbolic meaning is "I'm the craziest guy in the room, don't fuck with me".

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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That's not true. There are more options available to US than just "fire all the missiles".

>There are more options available to US than just "fire all the missiles". I mean any launch by Russia will be declaration of war on everyone. I don't know the effectiveness of stopping these nukes with missile defense. I suspect the USA has multiple plans that they expect to be effective.

"I mean any launch by Russia will be declaration of war on everyone.'

Depends on the target. If its the Ukraine -- maybe not.

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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The days of mutually assured destruction is actually over. In the time needed for the ICBMs to reach targets on another continent is enough time to intercept those missiles. Obviously neighbours like Finland and Ukraine on the otherhand are problematic. I hope the best for them. Many missile defense systems have been worked on, sattelites with high powered lasers, planes with high powered lasers, intercepting missile…

Satellites with high powered lasers are a fantasy that don't exist right now. The converted Boeing 747 airborne laser was a colossal failure and would have only been able to target a missile nearby in its boost/launch phase. It's now dismantled. You think you can send fighters to gun down an icbm MIRV in its re-entry phase? Seriously?

>Satellites with high powered lasers are a fantasy that don't exist right now.

You need approximately a 5KW laser to do the job. Virtually all satellites have this much power available.

So this 'fantasy' is that you don't believe these sattelites are in orbit? It's quite obvious that this wouldn't be public knowledge. I admit I have no idea.

>The converted Boeing 747 airborne laser was a colossal failure and would have only been able to target a missile nearby in its boost/launch phase. It's now dismantled.

So to be clear, an ICBM flies at like mach 15-30. So it quickly leaves range of the 747. It was indeed scrapped, but was it? Did missile defence agency in around 2009 just decide they don't know what to do and havent done anything since?

They received 9 billion $ in 2021 and this sentence is literally all we know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Futures_Com...

Is it simply top secret or did they utterly fail in their job?

>You think you can send fighters to gun down an icbm MIRV in its re-entry phase? Seriously?

If all you have is that, like canada, then that's what you have to do. It doesn't matter how probable the success is.

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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This is more serious than you think. Putin thought that, by now, he'll be already controlling the capital and setting a new puppet government. He is clearly losing the war (he was looking for quick toppling of the government). Putin is in a very bad situation right now. And having his nuclear "deterrents" in high-readiness doesn't help.

Minutes ago the BBC confirmed both Ukraine and Russia will have negotiations, without pre-conditions in the Belarus border. This means: - Its either a trap from Russia signals intelligence to be able to track Zelenskyy location. Hopefully he will not be there himself and is being well advised on that aspect by local foreign military experts. I love his Twitter posts, but I am sure all Russian military satellites are…

Unfortunately it looks, and I so much, so much, hope I am wrong, that the reasons for these negotiations, is so that Russia can transmit an Ultimatum.

I have reliable information that Belarus troops are being prepared to join Russian troops at the request of military support of their Russian fellows.

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>There are more options available to US than just "fire all the missiles". I mean any launch by Russia will be declaration of war on everyone. I don't know the effectiveness of stopping these nukes with missile defense. I suspect the USA has multiple plans that they expect to be effective.

"I mean any launch by Russia will be declaration of war on everyone.' Depends on the target. If its the Ukraine -- maybe not.

Like, if they launch on Ukraine. The nuke will go off on its target. Do you feel like the rest of the world who is anxiously watching what is happening will sit back and do nothing?

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

#39

Russia is committing suicide. And I hope it's not a physical suicide. In any case, there's no coming back from this. My earlier prognosis of being trapped in a slavic North Korea technologically enslaved to China is starting to sound like an optimistic outcome.

Well, tomorrow we'll witness the economical suicide.

Sberbank - 1$ = 110,49₽

Tinkoff - 1$ = 153,75₽

And the markets are not even opened.

For the reference, before Putin started full-scale war against the Ukraine:

1$ = 78.66₽ (23rd Feb)

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