While you were talking, a new update for ST2 has arrived :)
I want to pay for TextMate 2
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Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#202I've been trying to find some rationality in all this. I think it's crystal clear. The REASON Marco has been using version 1.x since 2006 is because there IS no version 2.0.
It's NOT any of our faults that the upgrade wasn't there 6 months later. That was the developer's fault. If it had come out 6 months to a year later, the revenue generated by 1.x would have most likely covered his "salary". But that money was obviously spent somewhere else... at his discretion. Now we have people saying, "it's ok, we'll pay again." Sure, I used the software since 2005, but only because for most of that time, there was NOTHING better. In no way is that my fault.
I mean absolutely no disrespect to Textmate, its developer or anyone else. As a developer, I understand that rightfully, family, obligations, and more lucrative projects can get in the way of one's pet projects.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#203Just for interest's sake can anyone point to this 'promise' of a free upgrade to version 2? I bought TM1 and it played no part on my buying decision because I was not not aware of any such guarantee. If this promise was made then IMHO his best option is to adopt the Firefox/Chrome numbering scheme: stabilise and release whatever he has now as TM2. He should also change the licensing to free updates for 12 months from…
See for example the "license policy" page [1], where it says, "We do hope to release a free 2.0 upgrade (which will require Leopard) but we provide no guarantees about this, we do not promise what features it may or may not include, we do not have any expected date of release etc."
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#204I just bought it because I expected the free upgrade, and was patiently waiting. I don't plan on paying for it again.
Not be a jerk, but if you didn't plan on using Textmate in the mean time, why didn't you wait for 2.0 to come out before buying it?
I bought TM1 in 2010 knowing full well that people have been waiting for TM2 for half a decade, because the presumption for late adopters like me (and possibly the parent) is that we bought TM1 to help fund the development of TM2--if revenue is really the problem for the delay of TM2.
I bought Sublime Text 2 while it was still a semi-working beta because I saw the potential and wanted to support the developer.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#205Sounds good, long as we are making developer requests.
Hey Marco, I want to pay for a really good kindle sync of instapaper, stop being so iOS focused.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#206Me too.
How can the support for Textmate, expressing my will to pay - be worth a downvote.
I understand the urge to keep this place noise free, but people committing in public to pay for a new version - and I've also bought Textmate a long time ago - is probably of more information value for many people here - with their own projects - then many other upvoted comments.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've never used it; is it really /just/ a text editor? Edit: to clarify, my use of "just" wasn't meant to be dismissive or diminutive in any way...
Given the relationship that coders often have with their editors, this is like saying to some parents "It's just a boy"… If you spend a lot of time in one program voluntarily , it's hard not to develop some feelings for it, beyond pure utilitarian reason. TextMate is certainly one of those programs. It embraced the programmability of a Unix-based environment, coupled with a very simple design and actually introduced…
> I switch a lot between editors, while secretly regretting that I can't just stick to emacs…
Why can't you just stick to emacs?
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd rather pay $60 to have it, than pay nothing and it not get done.
This logic fails if it's not a universal agreement. When it's not, you're just paying money for an expectation that may never materialise. One might call it gambling.
Or supporting a worthy cause.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
OMG! Seriously? What kind of stupid logic is that? If you use this line with your business, prepare for the shit storm that will come to your way. I'll report you to the BBB, file a law suit against you and pre up a class action law suit to rape you into bankruptcy and make sure no one will ever do business with you again. You agree to a contact and now you want to back out of it. Yes, people break contacts all the t…
>I'll report you to the BBB, file a law suit against you and pre up a class action law suit to rape you into bankruptcy and make sure no one will ever do business with you again. No, you won't, because unless you're a lawyer even thinking about it for too long will be more expensive than the license in the first place. This happens a LOT. Your client doesn't pay within 90 days. Do you automatically sue them? No. Do y…
You break a license? Yeah, I'm probably not going to go to court with you.
"break your contract"? Arbitrary contract? Unless we're talking trivial sized businesses here, there is a non-trivial chance that I will take you to court over that.
Oh yeah, and it is my impression that going to the BBB is free, so you can be sure I'll be doing that regardless.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bro, c'mon now. I hate using this argument, but if you promise your users a free upgrade and you break that promise. WHO THE FUCK WILL EVER TRUST YOU AGAIN? That's a lame excuse! Don't promise something that you can't keep. That just reflect badly on the company/developer. This is not about the money. It's about the integrity of a company.
Shit happens, man. I can't predict the future, can you? Sometimes you fuck up. If you own up to your mistakes, and they were reasonable mistakes, why shouldn't you be forgiven?
Part of actually owning up to your mistakes is accepting the consequences gracefully.
He shouldn't have made the promise in the first place, but now that he has the only responsible thing to do is to fulfill that. He can say it was a bad idea, and ask for donations if he wants, but he shouldn't go back on his word. His fuckup, he's the one that has to deal with the consequences.