Drawing skill, in my experience, comes mainly down to natural talent. If you’ve not got much you’ll get little reward from investing your time.
Boo. Everything I've learned, from work to living like an adult, has come down to practice. If I thought it was just "natural talent" I'd never attempt to get better at anything.
Ask HN: Anyone here have good material for learning how to sketch from scratch?
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Re: Ask HN: Anyone here have good material for learning how to sketch from scratch?
#92Commercial artist for 45 years. Also a developer, FWIW, mostly graphics programming since the late 1970s. _Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain_ is actually one of the best places to start. I know you said you tried it. But try it this way: Ignore all the theory and the stories the author tells. It’s mostly nonsense. But the exercises are actually very good. The trick is to not care about the result and about makin…
> You think you can see things, but what you are really doing is recognizing things. Any normal adult has the motor skills to make a controlled mark. I have reasonably nimble fingers and at least average overall motor control, and really cannot do this. I got pretty good at drawing a handful of things as a kid by just repeating the same pattern every time, but even on those my lines were just awful. I'm sure I could…
However, I did start going through Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain a while back and seriously impressed myself by following the exercises. No, I can't draw a circle or a straight line, but those things don't exist in nature; especially when you factor in perspective.
When in the right mind-set I found I wasn't thinking about shapes at all, I was just trying to make something look the way I was visualising it. For me that's the hard part. I normally think analytically "A stop sign is a octagon with some straight lines. Stop lights are circles." That's simply not true when you're trying to draw. Which is just as well, because I can't draw those shapes for squat!
I don't think I'll ever be able to draw diagrams/charts. However, I'm sure if I kept practising I could get reasonably good at drawing people & objects. Even in a cartoon style, I think I could, with a lot of effort, improve to an acceptable standard. Even cartoons tend to have some sort of perspective and characters are not symmetrical.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone here have good material for learning how to sketch from scratch?
#93Commercial artist for 45 years. Also a developer, FWIW, mostly graphics programming since the late 1970s. _Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain_ is actually one of the best places to start. I know you said you tried it. But try it this way: Ignore all the theory and the stories the author tells. It’s mostly nonsense. But the exercises are actually very good. The trick is to not care about the result and about makin…
> You think you can see things, but what you are really doing is recognizing things. Any normal adult has the motor skills to make a controlled mark. I have reasonably nimble fingers and at least average overall motor control, and really cannot do this. I got pretty good at drawing a handful of things as a kid by just repeating the same pattern every time, but even on those my lines were just awful. I'm sure I could…
Re: Ask HN: Anyone here have good material for learning how to sketch from scratch?
#94You may not be into comics but I still recommend Lynda Berry’s Making Comics for the aspiring draftsman. Depending on how you best learn, it may be a good fit. Playful, yet structured. So much in the early stages is about overcoming inhibitions and “just do it”, and this book helps with that. Also recommend Gary Panter’s 10 “rules” for keeping a sketchbook. Have fun! Oh, and look up the urban sketchers community, mig…
I want to learn how to do Stick Figures. Sort of like the xkcd. Would "Making Comics" help with that? If not, if anyone has any resources for stick figures, please mention them in a reply to this post.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone here have good material for learning how to sketch from scratch?
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#97People will comment that I am making assumptions, and snipe everything in here, but be strong, do what I tell you, because even YOUR first impression may be wrong.
I give you, and all the kind people that read this, Hyper Realism, as your first step.
Because making a perfect portrait is the simplest thing you can do.
Before you draw, before you get your pencils, your easel, before it occurs to you to get a wall projector (a modern camera obscura):
download Krita!
And buy the cheapest pen ant tablet you can get (about $40). Don't use the mouse, because it does not have a pressure sensor.
That is what the pen is for, the tip is pressure sensitive, and allows you to lay down transparent layers of paint.
If all you have is a mouse at the moment, then that is OK for following these steps. But get the pen, a mouse is nothing like it. Warning: the mouse may trick you into thinking digital painting is not for you, buy a used pen.
Before I continue, I remind you all, that as you learn how to do this one simple trick, you must become teachers. This is the tradition of the programmer, you learn and you teach the little ones how to do it. They won't learn in school, schools, like bad advice, will trick the younger artist out of art.
(Critics, keep in mind that this is teaches about drawing, it helps the heart to art, this is sacred, just let it be. And remember how internet works, one person asks, but the response is for many. I know the person asked for drawing and not digital painting. This teaches pencil drawing too.)
Once you have krita (which is open source) installed create 15x15 inch 300 dpi canvas.
Go to https://www.reddit.com/r/redditgetsdrawn/ and pick a simple well lit face, make sure you can see the lip/eye details at 1:1 zoom, though a little bit of blur won't hurt you, as you have to paint many paintings to to learn how to draw.
Now, and this is the magical part, use the Reference Images Tool (pushpin icon) to load up the image from Reddit Gets Drawn, AND STRETCH IT OVER THE ENTIRE CANVAS. This will feel like tracing, people may call it tracing, but this is learning to draw for real. This is about discovering the details of the face.
Begin by setting the opacity of the reference image to 50% and rough out the details, the shape of the face, the location of the eyes, assign a shortcut to CTRL+` to "Show Reference Images" which will help you turn the reference image off and on. This is your CAMERA OBSCURA, here you get everything in place for your Hyper Realism.
Once you have your shapes figured out, preferably on separate layers, DROP THE REFERENCE IMAGE OPACITY TO 1%, you won't be able to see it, BUT THE COLOR PICKER WIL, Holding down the CTRL key flips your brush into color picker mode, so you pick the color and brush it on, PICK AND BRUSH IT ON, PICK AND BRUSH IT ON, PICK AND BRUSH IT ON.
As you explore this technique studying your reference image, trying different variations of the technique, YOUR BRAIN, will begin soaking up details about the face, that you never knew existed. The little puffyness near the eye, the light that is always by the cheeks, the light pink near the lips, the support shadow beneath the nose.
The more you paint, the more you will learn how to draw.
NOTES:
Reddit Gets drawn has this happy clause: "By submitting a photo, submitters are agreeing that artists can distribute and sell work based on the photos uploaded."
Be mindful of copyright look up Shepard Fairy's trouble with the Obama HOPE poster.
Search the internet for "How do I sell my digital art."
Teach others how to do this.
And finally, when I hope to teach this technique, I half-jokingly call this the Cat Pea Technique.
I arrived at it independently about three weeks ago, and I kind of captured the beginning of the light bulb going off, in a silly time lapse video of a very patient and lind lady from Reddit Gets Drawn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov9m1iTJgSk&list=PLOo-pqnffy...
I am not selling anything, the video has only 7 views, and no sound, use an ad blocker, etc.
I am really just giving you all the ability to learn Art VERY QUICKLY from Hyper Realistic Digital Painting, which is a very inspiring start.
I know it will work for many if not all of you, because once you finish your first work, you will never stop.
We are all artists, we just need that first taste.
Thanks for bringing this question to the front page autotune.
Take care everyone, and remember to teach others.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone here have good material for learning how to sketch from scratch?
#98Possible red flags: - " One day, eventually, if all the stars align, I want to maybe be able to X " pattern. Yes it's good to have goals, and socially approved of to be humble; a risk with this is that people who are compelled to do X are already doing it right now, badly, because they enjoy doing it . You could have drawn many people in the time it took you to write that post, and then said "draw better action scene…
Re: Ask HN: Anyone here have good material for learning how to sketch from scratch?
#99Lynda Barry's resources are excellent! Her "What It Is" clearly communicates the magic and identity of making marks on the the page. She shows her adoration of marks by NOT-trained artists, they're more "alive", so many of her exercises are UN-learning things from more traditional "artist" pathways.
I'm really enjoying her "Syllabus" book, it's a startling refreshing way to learn, including making marks / "drawing".
https://www.instagram.com/thenearsightedmonkey/
https://www.amazon.com/Syllabus-Accidental-Professor-Lynda-B...
Re: Ask HN: Anyone here have good material for learning how to sketch from scratch?
#100Two suggestions to add to the many excellent ones already here: Arthur Wesley Dow’s Composition: A Series of Exercises Selected From a New System of Art Education [0] is a wonderful, wonderful book in the public domain – recently submitted here but didn't get much attention. It is well worth spending a lot of time studying its exercises and examples. [0] https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/dow-composition/ My s…