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Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Telegram is main social media platform of this war. Kinda weird to connect to Russian SM to find out what other side is saying (with Google translate). https://t.me/s/wargonzo https://t.me/s/sashakots https://t.me/s/MedvedevVesti

Just saw some videos with that wargonzo neckbeard. Just disgusting, I wonder how he sleeps each night knowing how much shit he eats for a living.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Why Russia just don't open independent sites for it's media. People who want to know different opinions will be able to come there themselves. It's strange that they necessarily want to be on facebook and youtube...

The same reason people go on any platform — because you want to reach the audience that is specific to that platform.

Sure you could put your video exclusively on Vimeo or host it yourself but then you miss out on the massive YouTube audience that won’t discover your content any other way. Same with Facebook.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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I don't want to see anyone starving on the streets but massive civil disobedience or a nation-wide strike by the Russian people would be incredible to see.

That's what got Poland its freedom. The one thing any dictator really fears is a mass uprising.

Sorry, you keep repeating that linking strikes in 1980, but the freedom came 10 years later (after Soviet union collapse). Those protests gave us (I mean as a consequence, not to say they were not justified) martial law and so called "lost decade". Miserable time. I also hope for a big change in Russia after some revolution, but it is not that simple under a strict dictatorship.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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I have an issue when the other side have guns _and_ use it against their own people for 8 years. Yeah, I have strong issue with that.

I have Russian-speaking Ukrainian friends. They have told me that there is no such pomgrom in Ukraine against them or people like them. They have told me multiple times that Russian friends of theirs keep telling them that they must be scared and they tell them that they are wrong. This is Russian propaganda that you are repeating, and has no base in truth.

It's somewhere in the middle. Russian propaganda exaggerates it. But some episodes truly happen.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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That's what got Poland its freedom. The one thing any dictator really fears is a mass uprising.

Sorry, you keep repeating that linking strikes in 1980, but the freedom came 10 years later (after Soviet union collapse). Those protests gave us (I mean as a consequence, not to say they were not justified) martial law and so called "lost decade". Miserable time. I also hope for a big change in Russia after some revolution, but it is not that simple under a strict dictatorship.

Yes, it took a years, so what? Poland showed the way for all of the USSR satellite states and was instrumental in the collapse of the union. I know that America likes to take credit for this through their financing and support of Afghanistan during the Russian-Afghan war but I am pretty sure that that does not properly credit all of the players.

The protests gave you martial law and the lost decade, but they also gave you the foundation of what came after: the best performing ex sovbloc country. I'm sure proximity to Germany helped here, a lot of money got dumped into Poland but at the same time Poland worked extremely hard to get where it is today. And without those protests all that might have never happened, or it might have happened much later.

> I also hope for a big change in Russia after some revolution, but it is not that simple under a strict dictatorship.

This is true, and Russia has far bigger problems than Poland had, in spite of being plundered for decades. I'm under no illusion that such a process would be either quick or easy.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Denial doesn’t mean they were influenced by propaganda. Invasion just didn’t make any sense and even among the opposition there was a belief that Putin is evil but rational.

So now the conclusion is he's not rational. Now what? A non rational dictator sitting on a very large number of nuclear weapons is not a good thing for the world.

Now it’s just scary. Let’s hope Ukraine will be able to resist long enough to force Putin to negotiate peace and to forget about any attempt to reach his goals along the Western borders of Russia by military means. It’s too bad that our hope is that enough Russian soldiers will die for Russian public to notice that war is in their house. There’s no popular support for the war, but the pain of war is not yet felt.

Unfortunately there’s no other options left. Sanctions are not a short term deterrent.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Heh, "point to Russians". I have several friends in Moscow, and up until the last few days they were in complete denial about Putin's intentions or troops buildup. There were memes, jokes, etc. The propaganda inside Russia is very strong. Russians need sanctions, they need to start suffering (economically or otherwise). And then maybe they'll wake up.

How much have they changed their minds in the last few days?

I'm Russian and It was clear that this could happen at any moment based on negotiations between the parties and other events, although the media laughed a little at this...

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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"independent", are you really able to say it with straight face? I'm not even talking of russian posts, it is as partisan as can be, supporting Dem agenda and suppressing GOP.

Not a FB user, so I'm genuinely curious what the GOP agenda is being surpressed?

It's probably not perfectly accurate to frame this as DEM vs GOP agenda. It's closer to think of it in terms for Blue Tribe vs Red Tribe. And of course the Covid-19 stuff is the great example of this. 23 months ago you could get banned, or at least your posts blocked, for saying things that we now think are probably true. And this persists around some specific issues.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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"independent", are you really able to say it with straight face? I'm not even talking of russian posts, it is as partisan as can be, supporting Dem agenda and suppressing GOP.

Not a FB user, so I'm genuinely curious what the GOP agenda is being surpressed?

I tend to get shadowbanned for mild posts — eg, publishing the NIH grant where they describe engineering viruses at WIV or the NIH letter saying they enhanced WIV-1.

I wouldn’t describe it at Dem/GOP so much as narrative/against — but with the politics of COVID being what they are, there’s a correlation between Republicans objecting to various things and censorship.

I’m apparently a “conspiracy theorist” and source of “misinformation” because I actually read government documents. Oh well.

https://grantome.com/grant/NIH/R01-AI110964-06

https://www.twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1450934193177903...

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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And I forgot to ask a question. Why do you think that we all should feel pain of sanctions? Because we are not able to stand against gov? Well, we are not able. And I think noone would be able if there is such a law and permissions of authorities. And for sure we, who know English(ok, not as good like any EU-person knows) and not working in gov-structures are the most small part of russians who have different opinion

> Because we are not able to stand against gov? But you can. > Well, we are not able No, you won't. That's fine but don't make it seem like there is no choice, there is plenty of evidence of people in Russia protesting and they have made a different choice than you. And "current operation" is distancing language. It's an invasion or a war, not an operation.

The Russian people who protested the war are now in prison, arrested for an illegal/unpermitted assembly.

Sanctions are cruel and ineffective.

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