Interesting...still weighing whether I want to familiarise myself with Ruby/RoR or if I should continue to enhance my python skills and learn Django...I think the fact that more people are talking about Ruby development may sway me towards RoR
Modern Ruby Development
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#42Personally, I don't understand the hype of rubyenv. I really love rvm. I'm not sure why the author called rvm a "mess of bash scripts". I guess because rvm has a lot of features? If I did not care for gemsets and all of the other niceties that rvm has, I guess I would be on the market for another ruby manager. The fact that the author of this article was rubbed the wrong way by Wayne and rvm, rubbed me the wrong way.
He probably called it a "mess of bash scripts" because, uh, it is a mess of bash scripts. Have you looked at the implementation? RVM is amazing in the functionality it has, don't get me wrong, but it hacks into your shell in some nasty ways and when things go wrong good luck figuring out why without diving deep into the underlying bash.
When you have a new box, or when things go wrong, is probably the time to try out "rvm implode" and try rbenv. Reinstalling rubies takes some time and it looks like there might be some time required to configure/fix existing apps to use rbenv?
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#43Software that lacks a good uninstaller is always suspect, to me. It makes me smile to know that this is all that's necessary to remove RVM: > rvm implode How's rbenv for uninstallation? I'm familiar-enough with rvm that I know I can restore absolutely everything from scratch with a couple config options and a while for compilation - I'm more than happy to spend that to experiment as long as rbenv has a similar panic-…
You just delete your clone of the git repo and remove the oneliner from your .bash_profile
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#44Interesting...still weighing whether I want to familiarise myself with Ruby/RoR or if I should continue to enhance my python skills and learn Django...I think the fact that more people are talking about Ruby development may sway me towards RoR
Depends, if I look at my local job listings where there's one ruby listing for every 10 python ones I'd say different but I'll admit that that ratio is abnormally high but indicates that the same trend governs most places bar Chicago. However, if I look at HN submissions, it's almost the other way around. Given that I've worked in three countries in the last 5 years and noticed the same trend in all of them, I am starting to think that Ruby developers are simply more evangelist.
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#45I actually miss vagrant/virtualbox in the stack. Why not use a virtual dev environment for every project you're working on. It seems silly to me to install all required components for each and every project on my dev machine, possibly with different/conflicting versions (think: multiple pg server versions etc.) instead of having a self contained environment for every project.
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You're right, there's nothing bad on sharing someone's preferred config. Calling that "modern ruby development" is silly.
i m moved to gedit and redcar from netbeans on ubuntu for any ruby development. on ubuntu does anyone have any recommendations?
Try emacs or vim. I am die hard emacs user
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Too much cool new stuff, why not just work out the bugs in the existing projects instead? This may not be a popular opinion, but I have a suspicion that the high degree of wheel reinvention in the world of Ruby and Rails libraries is due to two things: NIH Syndrome & the professed preference by employers for people with active GitHub projects. This causes all kinds of people to make their own gems and such where exis…
I'm definitely feeling the push to show that I'm doing something on my 'Hub account. I can see why it'd be tempting to go and reinvent a wheel to give that impression. To make it worse, GitHub only occasionally shows commit activity on repos belonging to other people. I have plenty of side-projects going over on a communal account at http://github.com/smashcon . If I work on some of those repos for a couple of weeks,…
On the other hand, if you get someone else to commit on a project you start, people will think of you when they think of the project. Case in point: until I looked at the history in-depth I always thought of pengwynn when I looked at this project:
https://github.com/pengwynn/faraday_middleware
The vast majority of commits are by https://github.com/sferik though.
I don't think pengwynn is gaming the system, but if someone wanted to, this is how they could do it.
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#48I thought this post would be about Ruby, but instead it's about Rails. Sort of. :(
Alright, let's do ruby then. I use vim with Ri, Rdoc, and ack-grep plugins (https://github.com/kristopolous/vimbuild) and then use irb with a bunch of extensions (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2952793/anything-like-bpy...) but there is nothing out there that makes my life phenomenally easy yet (for instance, some really awesome code navigation tool). zsh has built-in autocomplete for ri; try running zsh then do "ri " (http://qaa.ath.cx/ri.png); that ought to win you to at least having it installed. And yes, you can do "ri XXX#" for the second level! (http://qaa.ath.cx/ri-kernel.png)
For the record, I do straight ruby; I don't even know how to deploy rails.
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Sometime I don't understand people that use Vim for everything. I used Vim casually so I'm not an expert. I understand that it'll take a while to master it. But compare to netbeans where you can navigate Ruby code quite fast (shortcut to method implementation, class implementation, project browse, auto-suggest, etc), why would I want to use Vim when I have to find the proper plugins (not just one, but a few) before I…
As a netbeans user but vim fanatic. I really like netbeans for project management, but vim is awesome for just manipulating text tons faster than you can with netbeans. Try the jVi plugin for netbeans to get that text editing power of vim with the project management features of netbeans.
In my line of duty, most of the time spent in reading code, not writing code.
Even when we were building version 1.0 of the software, there aren't too many text editing as opposed to navigating the code tree.
Isn't dynamic/scripting languages like Ruby and Python produced way less code than Java? (Hence, less typing again).
So this is why I don't quite get the group of people that swear by vim.
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Capistrano is lacking, but has fewer good alternatives. What would you recommend over it?
Back when I was doing Ruby I was always fond of Vlad the Deployer: http://rubyhitsquad.com/Vlad_the_Deployer.html No idea if it's aged well.
Vlad's not bad. There's a similar project called Fezzik that I use extensively for non-Rails projects. Neither is as good as Capistrano if you're deploying a Rails project.