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Re: Modern Ruby Development

#11

Post by angelbob »

sunkencity wrote: post #6

Interesting guide, one thing I find lacking in ruby is longevity in projects. Too much cool new stuff, why not just work out the bugs in the existing projects instead? Of course it's easier to write a new half-assed implementation than getting the hard last percent done. Interesting that he roots for homebrew over macports and rbenv over rvm while at the same time voting for capistrano. Of those 3 projects I find mac…

Capistrano is lacking, but has fewer good alternatives. What would you recommend over it?

Re: Modern Ruby Development

#13

Post by sunkencity »

angelbob wrote: post #11
sunkencity wrote: post #6

Interesting guide, one thing I find lacking in ruby is longevity in projects. Too much cool new stuff, why not just work out the bugs in the existing projects instead? Of course it's easier to write a new half-assed implementation than getting the hard last percent done. Interesting that he roots for homebrew over macports and rbenv over rvm while at the same time voting for capistrano. Of those 3 projects I find mac…

Capistrano is lacking, but has fewer good alternatives. What would you recommend over it?

I prefer running stuff on heroku, but that's hardly a solution to the problem.

Re: Modern Ruby Development

#14

Post by diminish »

mzatko wrote: post #10
heimidal wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing silly about a developer sharing his preferred development configuration. Also, you glossed over the fact that he's not installing Xcode so that he can use its IDE; rather, he's installing to get LLVM/GCC easily. He makes it clear that ZSH is his preference and that he recommends it. The vast majority of developers looking for a guide to set up their machine for Ruby development will be Rails developer…

You're right, there's nothing bad on sharing someone's preferred config. Calling that "modern ruby development" is silly.

i m moved to gedit and redcar from netbeans on ubuntu for any ruby development. on ubuntu does anyone have any recommendations?

Re: Modern Ruby Development

#15

Post by stephencelis » 

  If you want to set your login shell to zsh, go to System 
  Preferences -> Users and Groups. Right-click on your user 
  account and select Advanced Options. Change the login shell 
  dropdown to /bin/zsh.
You're better off using `chsh -s /bin/zsh` (or, better yet, `brew install zsh`, append `/usr/local/bin/zsh` to `/etc/shells`, and use that, instead).

Re: Modern Ruby Development

#16

Post by nfm »

angelbob wrote: post #11
sunkencity wrote: post #6

Interesting guide, one thing I find lacking in ruby is longevity in projects. Too much cool new stuff, why not just work out the bugs in the existing projects instead? Of course it's easier to write a new half-assed implementation than getting the hard last percent done. Interesting that he roots for homebrew over macports and rbenv over rvm while at the same time voting for capistrano. Of those 3 projects I find mac…

Capistrano is lacking, but has fewer good alternatives. What would you recommend over it?

Have you had a look at whiskey_disk: https://github.com/flogic/whiskey_disk ?

It assumes you're using git, supports multiple stages out of the box, uses a reset strategy by default instead of having to hack it in etc.

I'm planning on playing with it today.

Re: Modern Ruby Development

#17

Post by rhizome »

sunkencity wrote: post #6

Interesting guide, one thing I find lacking in ruby is longevity in projects. Too much cool new stuff, why not just work out the bugs in the existing projects instead? Of course it's easier to write a new half-assed implementation than getting the hard last percent done. Interesting that he roots for homebrew over macports and rbenv over rvm while at the same time voting for capistrano. Of those 3 projects I find mac…

Too much cool new stuff, why not just work out the bugs in the existing projects instead?

This may not be a popular opinion, but I have a suspicion that the high degree of wheel reinvention in the world of Ruby and Rails libraries is due to two things: NIH Syndrome & the professed preference by employers for people with active GitHub projects. This causes all kinds of people to make their own gems and such where existing implementations could be improved without such a division (diffusion?) of labor.

Re: Modern Ruby Development

#18

Post by technomancy »

angelbob wrote: post #11
sunkencity wrote: post #6

Interesting guide, one thing I find lacking in ruby is longevity in projects. Too much cool new stuff, why not just work out the bugs in the existing projects instead? Of course it's easier to write a new half-assed implementation than getting the hard last percent done. Interesting that he roots for homebrew over macports and rbenv over rvm while at the same time voting for capistrano. Of those 3 projects I find mac…

Capistrano is lacking, but has fewer good alternatives. What would you recommend over it?

Back when I was doing Ruby I was always fond of Vlad the Deployer: http://rubyhitsquad.com/Vlad_the_Deployer.html No idea if it's aged well.

Re: Modern Ruby Development

#19

Post by amirhhz »

diminish wrote: post #14
mzatko wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, there's nothing bad on sharing someone's preferred config. Calling that "modern ruby development" is silly.

i m moved to gedit and redcar from netbeans on ubuntu for any ruby development. on ubuntu does anyone have any recommendations?

Try RubyMine from JetBrains, a very slick product, and worth paying for (I don't pay for much but JetBrains IDEs I make an exception for).

In true HN tradition, I must urge you to try Vim. I found this very helpful when I first start: http://yannesposito.com/Scratch/en/blog/Learn-Vim-Progressiv...

Re: Modern Ruby Development

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Post by damncabbage »

rhizome wrote: post #17
sunkencity wrote: post #6

Interesting guide, one thing I find lacking in ruby is longevity in projects. Too much cool new stuff, why not just work out the bugs in the existing projects instead? Of course it's easier to write a new half-assed implementation than getting the hard last percent done. Interesting that he roots for homebrew over macports and rbenv over rvm while at the same time voting for capistrano. Of those 3 projects I find mac…

Too much cool new stuff, why not just work out the bugs in the existing projects instead? This may not be a popular opinion, but I have a suspicion that the high degree of wheel reinvention in the world of Ruby and Rails libraries is due to two things: NIH Syndrome & the professed preference by employers for people with active GitHub projects. This causes all kinds of people to make their own gems and such where exis…

I'm definitely feeling the push to show that I'm doing something on my 'Hub account. I can see why it'd be tempting to go and reinvent a wheel to give that impression.

To make it worse, GitHub only occasionally shows commit activity on repos belonging to other people. I have plenty of side-projects going over on a communal account at http://github.com/smashcon. If I work on some of those repos for a couple of weeks, however, to the casual observer it appears as if I haven't been doing anything at all.

(The canonical answer appears to be "fork and use pull requests", but at this point in the project they're just too clumsy for little benefit, particularly each only has a single committer.)

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