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Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Telegram is main social media platform of this war. Kinda weird to connect to Russian SM to find out what other side is saying (with Google translate). https://t.me/s/wargonzo https://t.me/s/sashakots https://t.me/s/MedvedevVesti

What are they saying?

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Is this the first big nation military conflict in the era of ubiquitous video streaming ? It feels like this is de-staging the aggression, you see more details, you see more failures, it feels less impressive than past fights on TV for instance.

Syria had/has combat videos. I think that was the first to happen while it was ubiquitous. It did not make it any less intense or terribly.

Potato quality footage was ubiquitous, though there is some HD. All the Ukraine footage I've seen looks like much higher definition.

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A good tactic would be to point out to Russians that their government is censoring political things for them. They like to think they are free and above the hypocrisy of the west. But the key thing is the West allows it's citizens to criticise itself. The Russians do not have that freedom. It's basically becoming like China in the way of censorship and lack of freedom, to protect it's citizens and the fatherland. To sacrifice for the country.

In the west we can say "my government is bad" and give examples of a number of terrible and true and shameful things. In Russia or China they cannot even admit truth.

One tactic that we see from China and Russia is to criticise the chaotic nature of protests in the West and (again) to emphasise the hypocrisy on how the West deals with protests of the Left vs Right. The thing is that there IS a lot of truth here. But the key thing is that these protests occur nonetheless. In repressive regimes there is no freedom to protest. You cannot have hypocrisy in how you deal with political protests if you do not have political protests!

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Honestly, I just wish Facebook, Twitter, Google, and even Microsoft and Apple just withdrew. The Russian government has only contempt for them anyway

It’s in the international interest to keep them up to spread propaganda and counter Russian propaganda. The withdrawal of media would make the fight very one sided in favor of Russia.

That might be a fire Russia has to go through before it gets better. A powerful counterargument is that tough control seems to work out just fine in China, but I'm not sure Russia would really be "culturally compatible" with the Chinese way

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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post #57

Telegram is main social media platform of this war. Kinda weird to connect to Russian SM to find out what other side is saying (with Google translate). https://t.me/s/wargonzo https://t.me/s/sashakots https://t.me/s/MedvedevVesti

What do you mean by connecting to Russian servers? Telegram has nothing to do with Russia.

Yeah you're right I thought it was totally Russian, but is just started by Russians and is popular there. I've amended servers to SM in my comment.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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post #57

Telegram is main social media platform of this war. Kinda weird to connect to Russian SM to find out what other side is saying (with Google translate). https://t.me/s/wargonzo https://t.me/s/sashakots https://t.me/s/MedvedevVesti

What are they saying?

Russians are the victims and are trying to get peace of course. Browsers will auto translate for you.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TikTok is not western though

It is western in the sense that it is marketed to the west. Chinese people use Douyin instead.

Tiktok is marketed to everywhere that isn't China. That's not the same as western.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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The internet just feels so small currently. The technology seems to be all here to make it distributed and open it up, but the convenience of centralization and the lack of network-effects of the distributed solutions seem to be the bottle-neck that stop them from gaining traction.

I remember a lovely time when my RSS was pulling in data from a huge and various number of independent sources, non-algorythmically, all compiled nicely in GReader ... without social media flame wars hanging off the end of every link.

/random-cry-against-centralisation-of-the-internet

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