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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by graphpercolator »

glogla wrote: post #210
black_puppydog wrote: post #147

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Sorry but what? * It looks like there won't be a Ukrainian government to speak of in a few days. * Manipulative behaviour has been identified on twitter and Facebook almost every day for the last few years, and it hasn't really led to much anything. The Ukrainian government can't do anything about that, if the independent banana republics of FAANG don't decide to act, nothing is gonna change. * Likewise for patreon.…

I'm guessing you're getting downvoted for aggresive tone. But you are right that social media networks are strong enablers of evil and helpers to enemies of freedom and democracy. Facebook and Twitter could easily stop (almost) all the misinformation and propaganda, but they don't because it makes them money.

I think we confuse though doing data science on historic data to spot these manipulative communities vs doing that same data science in near real time to have any real counter effect on it.

I really doubt they could stop propaganda before the message is sent without deleting a ton of accounts that are false positives.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by cloverich »

MarcellusDrum wrote: post #353
Aeolun wrote: post #343

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More or less. They overthrew Gadaffi, but the country tore itself apart. I’m all for blaming the US where it’s warranted, but I don’t think that particular instance is it.

I'd like (or hate, actually) to see what would happen to the US if a foreign power was able to fund a terrorist militia and overthrow their government. You have too much faith in the morals of humans who don't have a strong leadership that can hold them accountable.

Obviously that's an important point, but OP's assertion has more to do with the cultural and practical history playing a role in the aftermath of a government falling. The US has been at relative peace internally for 150 years and has a relatively strong bent towards republican government. That's not something that can be quickly undone. The government "falling" in some countries is as simple as a particular leader being eliminated. In the US a leader being permanently removed from power on a regular cadence is not only normal but required. If someone came in and eliminated the current president (and his cabinet), the most likely outcome is we would just elect another. The second most likely is we would fracture into sub-nations / states, but still elect another. I don't see the scenario where we all start trying to kill one another -- there's very little difference between people across the US and most of us have family on both sides of the political spectrum / physical location.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by HWR_14 »

rosndo wrote: post #369
HWR_14 wrote: post #134

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So, there's a lot. For one, Putin seems to want to reassemble the USSR as a vanity project. Further, this all started (years ago) when the Ukrainians removed out their Moscow friendly president. Putin doesn't like reminders that months of sustained protests can really effect change and remove leaders, especially so close to Russia. Crimea is the only "warm water" port that Russia has access to to gain access for the…

> For one, Putin seems to want to reassemble the USSR as a vanity project Putin has almost exclusively bad things to say about the USSR, it is the Russian Empire he wants to restore.

I didn't mean the government of the USSR. I meant the geographic reach.

But you contend that Putin doesn't want the western tip of Ukraine, but instead to reclaim Finland, Alaska and parts of Poland? Because that's the only difference in his territorial ambitions.

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Post by [deleted] »

neonsunset wrote: post #367

1: Small website with simple JS to ddos a list of russian gov and propaganda websites. Works anywhere where those are not blocked (e.g. Ukraine). Link - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ 2. Console tool for unplanned load testing Link - https://github.com/codesenberg/bombardier/releases/tag/v1.2.... Example usage - ./bombardier-linux-amd64 --duration=240h --connections=1000 --latencies https://lenta.ru U…

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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by _joel »

purple_ferret wrote: post #452
jl6 wrote: post #419

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Really, how much defensive value does this have for Ukraine? DDOSing Russian news websites just allows them to cry victim - “look, they don’t want you to hear the truth!”. Disrupting the Russian internet in general also harms any anti-war protesters trying to organize.

Russian 'news' is claiming Ukrainian Nazis are massacring ethnic Russians. They don't need a legitimate excuse. Anyway, most Russians probably thought this was all bluster by the West and Russia wasn't going in. They need to know they're engaged in an actual war.

Especially given that Ukranian President Zelenskiy is Jewish.

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

Merem wrote: post #513
purple_ferret wrote: post #452

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Russian 'news' is claiming Ukrainian Nazis are massacring ethnic Russians. They don't need a legitimate excuse. Anyway, most Russians probably thought this was all bluster by the West and Russia wasn't going in. They need to know they're engaged in an actual war.

I mean, do you deny that the Ukrainian army has been shelling civilians in the separatist regions? A fellow countryman moved there since no one of the press bothered to report over the years and she confirmed it. And even apart from that, it's not like reports from the OSCE and UN aren't available. Furthermore, considering that the Ukrainian government enacted language and racial laws (can be easily looked up) and em…

There is a serious issue with neo-nazi's in Ukraine who the U.S. supports because they are anti-russia. (I feel like I am living during the beginning of the Iraq war all over again.)

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by _joel »

Merem wrote: post #513
purple_ferret wrote: post #452

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Russian 'news' is claiming Ukrainian Nazis are massacring ethnic Russians. They don't need a legitimate excuse. Anyway, most Russians probably thought this was all bluster by the West and Russia wasn't going in. They need to know they're engaged in an actual war.

I mean, do you deny that the Ukrainian army has been shelling civilians in the separatist regions? A fellow countryman moved there since no one of the press bothered to report over the years and she confirmed it. And even apart from that, it's not like reports from the OSCE and UN aren't available. Furthermore, considering that the Ukrainian government enacted language and racial laws (can be easily looked up) and em…

The press have been reporting the fighting in Donetsk and Luhansk since it started 8 years ago, what are you talking about?

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Post by e7b9 »

cute_boi wrote: post #456
neonsunset wrote: post #381

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Thank you for feedback! In order to work effectively vs some sites, you may need to run Chrome with CORS disabled: https://alfilatov.com/posts/run-chrome-without-cors/ Windows: Right click on desktop, add new shortcut, Add the target as "[PATH_TO_CHROME]\chrome.exe" --disable-web-security --disable-gpu --user-data-dir=~/chromeTemp , Click OK. OSX: open -n -a /Applications/Google\ Chrome.app/Contents/MacOS/Google\ Chr…

No. What you clearly teaching is utmost harmful for the security. Are you going to be responsible if someone lose money from their bank account? And please don't expect all hackernews reader to understand the meaning of cors. Not all of us are fronted developer right? The best way is to create some node or binaries (rust/go/c++) and run them.

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

wowokay wrote: post #454
MarcellusDrum wrote: post #249

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The phrase "the free world" rubs me the wrong way. I'm obviously against what Russia is doing, any sane man would be. But as a middle eastern, the US to us has been 10x worse than Russia: They killed a million Iraqis, they killed Syrian civilians by bombing hospitals and schools. They overthrew a functional government in Libya, and they supported Syrian/Iraqi separatists (Kurds). They forcefully tried to build a mili…

Yes but at least the US had probable cause to go into Iraq. The world was pretty much behind that decision. We were attacked, civilians were attacked directly, none of that conflict would have occurred if Iraq or neighboring countries stopped their terrorism.

> Yes but at least the US had probable cause to go into Iraq.

Oh my, this is disturbing. What was the probably cause? WMD's? :^/

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Post by belter »

vkou wrote: post #511
belter wrote: post #494

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That is exactly why the situation is so dangerous. If there is even a hint that the US and the whole of NATO will not come in strong, then yes there is the possibility that he could go further. There is another very dangerous scenario that has not been considered. A Russian inspired coup in one of the existing NATO countries with a not so small large Russian speaking population. That government then saying they want…

> On another side, it's not even mentioned that in the middle of the war action in Ukraine, nobody seems to have noticed Putin just annexed another country, Byelorussia. The Russian troops were supposed to leave at the end of their 3 week long exercises, but they are now leaving...never. Belorussia has been a Russian puppet since the collapse of the USSR, nobody's noticed it because nothing has changed.

True, but weeks ago their dictator was still trying to maintain the farse that the Russian troops were only present for exercises and would leave then. And its rumored the "referendum" planned for 3 days from now will settle it.

"Referendum on Belarus’ constitutional amendments set for 27 February" https://president.gov.by/en/events/referendum-po-vneseniyu-i...

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