If as a current TextMate user I'll have to pay for TextMate 2 I'll just switch to MacVim.
Dude don't wait :) Use MacVim today.
Seriously. Frequent releases, native UI, rich plugin set, customizable, free, multi-platform (vim) and timeless.
I want to pay for TextMate 2
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Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
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Bro, c'mon now. I hate using this argument, but if you can afford a macbook you can definitely pony up $60 for your main development tool . Dude's running a business, not a charity. Shit, I use vim. If you're so screwed for cash there are a couple of first class alternatives. EDIT: I use a macbook too. I think it's a great dev platform. It only represents about 5% of my yearly income, though. I doubt I'd be using it…
> Dude's running a business, not a charity. So everyone should give him more money than he originally agreed to take to provide a product? Sounds like an, uh, donation.
People break contracts all the time. In fact, if you are losing money on a deal it's your duty as a rational actor to break your contract.
Underwater on your mortgage? Foreclose it.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bro, c'mon now. I hate using this argument, but if you can afford a macbook you can definitely pony up $60 for your main development tool . Dude's running a business, not a charity. Shit, I use vim. If you're so screwed for cash there are a couple of first class alternatives. EDIT: I use a macbook too. I think it's a great dev platform. It only represents about 5% of my yearly income, though. I doubt I'd be using it…
The macbook I use cost about the same as my current monthly salary and is probably equivalent to 4-6 months of discretionary spending. It's not technically mine, either. It belongs to the company I work for. Call me a "cheapskate" if you will, but there's no way I'd pay $60 USD for a text editor with the promise of a free upgrade, and then pay $60 again when the seller decided to renege on that promise. You make a lo…
I agree, that's a huge disparity. (Did you pay $60 for the original Textmate?)
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't believe there are so many cheapskates in here. It's $60! WHO CARES! It's a tool you presumably use every single hour of your programming life . I refuse to accept that you feel personally violated over an idiot promise the author made six years ago. Are people really saying that if the dude came out and said, "Hey guys, it's done but… if I keep my original promise, I literally won't be able to afford the band…
it has nothing to do with the price. it could be $1. It's about keeping your word. It's about morality. Heck people can still donate, a lot more than that too. And if keeping your word is going to kill, don't write stuff like "ohlala im so poor damn what im gonna do! damn if only people would agree to pay!" and hope that it works. You man up and you apologize properly, saying it ain't going to be free and that wasn't…
>You man up and you apologize properly, saying it ain't going to be free and that wasn't planned, but it has to be.
Oh I agree. But this would be very easy to do tactfully, and so I consider it semi trivial. All you have to do is be humble, and apologize profusely and talk about the soul-consuming labour of love the project has been over the past few years and I think most people would forgive him.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then here's an idea that may make everybody here happy: the price for the software new is $60. The price for the software with a code from the previous edition is what you want . You can put in $60, or $0, or $256. How 'bout that?
Marco's position, which I support, is a little like Warren Buffett pointing out that his taxes are too low, which I also support. People who reply "Well if you think your taxes are so low, make a voluntary contribution" are probably-deliberately overlooking that the goal isn't for an individual to pay more, it's to provide meaningful support to the entity which needs the revenue, whether that's Allen Odgaard or the U…
I'm not suggesting a "voluntary contribution" (i.e. a donate button beside a free download link.) I'm suggesting a real payment/checkout process, with a lot of inbuilt social pressure to put in a number that's not zero. You know, like how the Humble Indie Bundles work.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#136I'll solve both issues: TextMate Gold. It's a special version for TextMate 1 licensees that decide to pay the extra upgraded prices (or unlicensed users who pay an extra 39 EUR). No extra features, it just adds a gold titlebar (preferences controllable, of course), and puts your name in gold lettering in the about box. People like Marco can feel better about themselves, and no one who bought TextMate 1.x feels screwed over.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who's actually making an analogous opposite switch (learning vim rather than using Sublime), I'd love to hear your reasons for preferring Textmate over vim (I haven't used Textmate myself).
For me, it's the ease of use, the HTML bundle's shortcuts for quickly slicing through markup, the automatic recognition of languages embedded within languages (JavaScript bundle and syntax highlighting automatically activated when the cursor is in JS code inside HTML). The easy macro recording doesn't hurt either. AckMate solved the only real issue I had with TextMate, so I'm a pretty happy coder with it now.
yeah, textmate's nested language support is one of the top two features i really wish vim could steal from other editors (the other is lisp scripting from emacs)
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you mean "harder to learn" .
Nope! Harder to use . It's basically impossible to discover new functionality in vim without reading technical documentation for it, whereas in Textmate I assume (having never used it) that feature is accessible using a mouse. TM is more usable than vim.
not used textmate, but what you're describing is "more discoverable" rather than "more usable"
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#139When I bought, I remember reading the free upgrades part, but I had thought it was only up "TO" version 2.0 not including 2.0. Somehow I just assume that major upgrades are fair game for upgrade fees.
So...if 2.0 is truly a major upgrade I'm more than willing to pay the $60.
Count me in!
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#140Me too.