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Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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post #77

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rt.com seems down from my perspective DDoSes are simple tools, but they can be extremely effective at stopping Russian propaganda mills.

I just typed it in on many web browsers, tor, VPNs etc and it turns out that RT.com is still up. So it’s mission failed successfully?

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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

#82
post #4

Anonymous is supposedly joining the cyber war: https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews/status/1496954233492541444 https://twitter.com/YourAnonOne/status/1496965766435926039 They are claiming responsibility for taking down RT.com and some other Russian sites.

isn't anonymous just a loose affiliation of people on 4chan though? Kind of strange to claim that the whole collective is doing something.

And even then it’s mostly a bunch of kids larping

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

#83
post #70

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This reminds me of a great quote: "There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect"[1] 1. https://www.bradford-delong.com/2018/12/frank-wilhoit-the-tr...

"Great" as in "insightful" as a definition of conservatism, rather than as an endorsement of the philosophy (one hopes).

How is that conservative, beyond dovetailing with what many on the US 'right' currently claim?

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

#84
post #4

Anonymous is supposedly joining the cyber war: https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews/status/1496954233492541444 https://twitter.com/YourAnonOne/status/1496965766435926039 They are claiming responsibility for taking down RT.com and some other Russian sites.

isn't anonymous just a loose affiliation of people on 4chan though? Kind of strange to claim that the whole collective is doing something.

The "real" Anonymous was. Now some other hacktivist group uses the name to cash in on the clout. People get really excited when they hear Anonymous is back at work.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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post #78
post #75

Probably I'm just naive but I really don't understand this cyber warfare theater. Why aren't all internet operators in the free world just blackholing all russian ASNs (complete with the other allied bullies) from the internet routing tables? Wouldn't this be enough to avert all the nasty attacks on critical infrastructure?

You'd have to cut literally every cable and satellite connection and radio transmission in and out of the country. With something as geographically distributed as Russia, that sounds very hard to convince every country to convince every operator to... and even then, there's some wireless options.

Presumably there's a Pareto 20% (or smaller I'd imagine) of connections that carry 80% of the traffic? At very least the increased latency of being forced onto suboptimal paths would be a statement

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

#86
post #25

I'm Ukrainian activist for 10+ years, have been on Maidan, etc, know many other activists. Unfortunately, we have not seen understanding with any government. Looks like, all people who got to government or state organizations, work on classical totalitarian scheme - "for friends all the best, for all others - severity of the law". Mean, system is so much disbalanced, that any government got totalitarian power and doe…

Some of the best developers I've worked with are Ukrainians. I've been hiring there for over 10 years with great results.

Some great Ukrainian coworkers I've had the pleasure to work with as well.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

#87
post #67

It's not clear what we can actually do to help. I work as a web-sec machine learning researcher, and I'd like to help. But anything I can do is probably illegal in my country or a breach of contract with my employer :(

Contact your country's lawful security forces? It should give you legal and career protection.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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> support Ukrainian army as private persons, without government/state. How do you hope to defeat Russia without coordinating with the lawful and most powerful institutions in the country? Note also that probably all foreign government assistance, especially the motherlodes of assistance from NATO states, including cyber, will be going through the Ukranian government. > You could just donate, or you could create some…

> All your points seem to reduce support for and divert it from the Ukranian government and their military. Isn't that absurdly dangerous in this moment? Almost none of the people on HN have anything to contribute to the Ukranian military. At the same time, all of the things related to actually living as a person in any country, at war or peace time, revolve around jobs, the economy and technology, things people on H…

You can donate money to the Ukrainian military. It's not very convenient (no PayPal etc.) but the military is accepting foreign donations via wire transfers.

https://ukraine.ua/news/support-the-armed-forces-of-ukraine/

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

#89

Doubt the effectiveness. Modern day internet architecture is very secure. Script kiddies spamming DDOS with zombie networks may well be more damaging

> Modern day internet architecture is very secure.

Seriously? That doesn't seem to match the outcomes of regular breeches, 0-days, etc. - many reported right here. The state of security is often considered terrible and unrepairable; experts advise assuming you have been breeched.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

#90
post #75

Probably I'm just naive but I really don't understand this cyber warfare theater. Why aren't all internet operators in the free world just blackholing all russian ASNs (complete with the other allied bullies) from the internet routing tables? Wouldn't this be enough to avert all the nasty attacks on critical infrastructure?

Russia has a lot of spy satellites. A bunch of them could serve as bridges between Russia and regular homes in EU/US with a good fiber connection, datacentres, etc. Also microwave or fiber connections through the border to the many countries around them.
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